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craig

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #705 on: July 17, 2011, 01:22:42 pm »
Heh, dave I was wondering what it censored, too.  I think it was educated guess or educated risk or educated gamble. 

Dave, I doubt that Dugas has done enough in a couple of weeks of summer to reduce his status.  A proven big-time college player, I think you know what he is. 

I think the summer performance is more at issue for pitchers.  It's easy to envision some pitcher stepping it up, or holding some newfound velocity that you saw in spring; or coming back off of an injury; or a guy who had success against lower competition showing that his success holds against better guys; or showing some success with a breaking pitch that he didn't throw often in HS/JC but he knows he'll need to show you if he's going to get the cash.  But I can't imagine Dugas has killed his eval during a month of summer ball.  (Could be wrong, of course.) 

I suspect it's mostly a reality that most players end up settling for less than they originally asked for.  Just as in the NFL deal, neither ends with what they first "demanded".  So Dugas says he expects $600+, we figure he'll eventually take what he gets and sign for $250 or $300, so we draft him despite his $600 "demand".  But in this case he doesn't move off his demands as much as we expected. 

I suspect if you only drafted guys whose stated dollar demand is what you're willing to pay, you might be taking 80% of the kids off your draft board.  I assume you routinely draft guys who expecting that you'll offer less than they demand, but that in due time they'll move enough to take what you're willing to give.  That isn't going to always happen, of course, so it's an educated risk. 

craig

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #706 on: July 17, 2011, 01:23:46 pm »
OK, the censored word must be g a m b l e gamble

davep

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #707 on: July 17, 2011, 01:30:22 pm »
I guess we are looking at Dugas differently.  I see him as another Cerda, who was taken in about the same round if I remember correctly.  He is someone that I would like to have, but not someone I would want to break the budget over.  If I had extra cash, I would apply it to Zych, Taylor, Maples or several of the other long shot-high potential kids.

Jes Beard

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #708 on: July 17, 2011, 01:32:53 pm »
What if it's a 70K diff?  Then the extra 35K puts it within your aforementioned 35K range and would make it close enough to sign.  Or, in that case, would that be a 35K rather than a 70K difference and, thus, the stupid for not signing range?

That seems almost a paradox.

The post I was responding to mentioned a $35K difference.  At $70, you are starting to talk about real money for both sides.

davep

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #709 on: July 17, 2011, 01:35:13 pm »
How about 36 K?

JR

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #710 on: July 17, 2011, 03:46:27 pm »
G amble is censored here?  Sheesh.

davep

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #711 on: July 17, 2011, 03:47:55 pm »
Gamble

It seems so.

JeffH

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #712 on: July 17, 2011, 04:07:21 pm »
Suicide.  Murder.  ****.  Sodomy.  Torture.  Pedophilia.

LOL.  All OK.  But not gamble.

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #713 on: July 17, 2011, 04:17:16 pm »
The Cubs should bring back Oscar Gamble as a coach.

Jes Beard

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #714 on: July 17, 2011, 04:24:14 pm »
Gamble?

Jes Beard

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #715 on: July 17, 2011, 04:24:58 pm »
And createforum just uses four asterisks for it?

Playtwo

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #716 on: July 17, 2011, 04:34:19 pm »
The Cubs should bring back Oscar **** as a coach.
That would be a risky move.

Jes Beard

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #717 on: July 17, 2011, 04:58:02 pm »
Odds are the Cubs wouldn't consider it anyway.

CurtOne

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #718 on: July 17, 2011, 05:15:05 pm »
I wonder if the g word is censored because they fear unmonitored sites could be used for illegal activity.  Then bet and wager should be eliminated, too, right?

davep

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Re: 2011 Draft
« Reply #719 on: July 17, 2011, 05:40:24 pm »
They are, but you spelled bett and wagor incorrectly.