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Chris27

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1005 on: June 09, 2013, 04:36:26 pm »
McCleod was on WGN radio today.

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McLeod says Mark Appel and Kris Bryant were neck and neck for them and were going to be happy either way.


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McLeod believes Bryant can play 3B in the majors. Tall for position but very athletic, good hands. If does have to move will be good OF'er.

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Cubs like Zastryzny, bulldog mentality, athletic, will pitch 90-93, solid change, two breaking pitches.

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McLeod says Cubs focused on college pitchers with good stuff whom they think will have an accelerated development.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1006 on: June 09, 2013, 10:50:27 pm »
Is #77 higher or lower than 76?  I just want to understand your post.

Sorry--my post was confusing.  He had a better rating than 13 guys drafted in 2nd round.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1007 on: June 10, 2013, 12:51:22 am »
Poncedeleon (14) and Hermans (30) have signed.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1008 on: June 10, 2013, 08:36:49 am »
From Cubs.com email:

The Chicago Cubs completed the 2013 Major League Baseball First-Year Player Draft. The club made 40 selections during the three-day event.

 In the 15th round, the Cubs selected right-handed pitcher Michael Wagner out of the University of San Diego. A teammate of Cubs first-round pick Kris Bryant, Wagner struck out 84 batters in 89.0 innings, good for an average of 8.5 strikeouts per 9.0 innings, while walking 32.

The Cubs 25th round selection, outfielder Marcus Doi from Mid-Pacific Institute in Honolulu, Hawaii, is the first player from Hawaii selected by the Cubs in the First-Year Player Draft since shortstop Jan Thornton-Murray, taken in the 14th round of the 1999 draft.

Overall, the Cubs selected 19 pitchers (16 righthanders and three lefthanders), seven infielders, eight outfielders and six catchers. Additionally, the Cubs selected 22 college players, seven junior college players and 11 high school players.

Cubs 2013 Draft Picks
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(2) Kris Bryant
(41) Rob Zastryzny
(75) Jacob Hannemann
(108) Tyler Skulina
(138) Trey Masek
(168) Scott Frazier
(198) David Garner
(228) Sam Wilson
(258) Charcer Burks
(288) Zachary Godley
(318) Jordan Hankins
(348) Trevor Clifton
(378) Trevor Graham
(408) Daniel Poncedeleon 
(438) Michael Wagner
(468) Cael Brockmeyer
(498) Kelvin Freeman
(528) Giuseppe Papaccio
(558) Will Remillard
(588) Zak Blair
(618) Joshua McCauley
(648) Kevin Brown
(678) Tyler Ihrig
(708) Tyler Alamo
(738) Marcus Doi
(768) Carlos Pena
(798) Tyler Sciacca
(828) Brad Renner
(858) John Garcia
(888) Zak Hermans
(918) Sean Johnson
(948) Keaton Leach
(978) Chris Madera
(1008) Jake Thompson
(1038) Ramsey Romano
(1068) Derek Campbell
(1098) Jeremy Martinez
(1128) Zack Brown
(1158) Josh Greene
(1188) Patrick Riley



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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1009 on: June 10, 2013, 10:48:07 am »
Keith Law:

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The Chicago Cubs' draft is a good reminder that one reach does not necessarily equal a bad class. Chicago did take BYU center fielder Jacob Hannemann a few rounds earlier than his talent probably warranted (third round), but the rest of their picks were all solid in terms of value. Texas Tech's Trey Masek was a guy who I thought would go in the first three rounds with four average to above-average pitches, and he was nice value in the fifth round. Pepperdine's Scott Frazier had top-50 talk earlier in the year with a 96 mph fastball, so he could be seen as a steal in the sixth round. Keep an eye on fourth-round pick Tyler Skulina (Kent State), a guy who had decidedly mixed results but could be a solid mid-rotation starter with some coaching up.

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The Cubs' first pick, Kris Bryant (2), was a first-round talent out of high school who ended up at the University of San Diego and just ended up leading Division 1 in homers this year with 31. His kind of right-handed power is hard to come by, and even if he ends up in right field down the road he'll be a middle-of-the-order bat with power and patience. Rob Zastryzny (41) is a four-pitch starter without an out pitch, showing good command and control but lacking life on the fastball. Jacob Hannemann (75) is a 22-year-old freshman from BYU who spent two years serving on a religious mission, with good tools including the speed to possibly stay in center, but he's already at an age when he should be in Double-A.

The Cubs took five hard throwers who probably profile in relief in the long run in Tyler Skulina (108), Trey Masek (138), Scott Frazier (168), David Garner (198), and Sam Wilson (228); Skulina and Frazier are the most intriguing because they at least have a chance to remain starters due to their size and potential for above-average breaking balls. Their one wild card pick is Trevor Clifton (348), a prep righty from Tennessee who reaches 97 mph regularly with a very violent delivery and a strong commitment to Kentucky.


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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1010 on: June 10, 2013, 10:55:09 am »
Baseball America's scouting report on Kris Bryant in 2010 after his senior year in high school:

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Bryant entered the summer with lofty expectations, but he often looked overmatched at the plate during the showcase circuit last summer. When he's on, he's a treat to watch. He has a lean, 6-foot-5, 195-pound frame and light-tower power that draws comparisons to a young Troy Glaus. The power, however, mostly shows up during batting practice or when he has a metal bat in his hands. There are a lot of moving parts to his swing and he has trouble barreling balls up with wood, so how much usable power he ends up having is a big question. He has a long, loopy swing and he never changes his approach when he's struggling. He's athletic for a big guy and may be able to handle third base. He has the arm for it, and some scouts said they wouldn't be shocked if he eventually ended up on the mound. Some scouts love Bryant's power enough to take him in the back half of the first round, while others turned him in as a token gesture and have little interest in him--especially for the price it will take to lure him away from his San Diego commitment.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1012 on: June 10, 2013, 02:52:30 pm »
Dave, thanks for those fascinating articles.  I'd known BA had him 148 overall, which seems like late 4th-early 5th but hadn't realized they'd been projecting him to actually go in the 2nd round.  The bit about listing $800K as price, but then having teams thinking it was actually $1M seemed curious.  Actual miscommunication error when Cliftons never indicated any such thing?  Or the agent really having communicated that? 

The article says that after Cliftons cleared up the "discrepancy" before Saturday, that at least two other teams put forth offers, and the Cubs offered to use their first pick on Saturday. But, of course, they didn't actually; every other teams had a chance to draft him in the 11th round before the Cubs selected him in the 12th.  The article has a bunch of factually questionable stuff in it, so I wonder how much is actually true.  versus an agent or a father telling a story, perhaps not quite correctly, or a local reporter who doesn't really know the process getting some details messed up.  (Local readers certainly don't care...) 

It's odd that the Cubs didn't select him right away.  If there were other teams interested, and why wouldn't there be, why did the Cubs risk letting somebody else take him?  I'd think it was now obvious that he wanted to sign.  So if the Cubs were offering $650K, and somebody else was talking $530, if the $530K team had picked him would the Cliftons have really walked away and gone to school, over $120K, or whatever?  Yet the Cubs risked letting some other team select him instead. 

Maybe Cliftons and agent were pretty decisive, and gave no encouragement to other teams.  Maybe agent called Houston and got no offer, then Cubs, and got a good offer, and then nobody else could get close so he encouraged the others not at all, who knows.  But the Cubs might have been taking a little bit of a risk.  Perhaps that suggests they had some other guy(s) lined up, who they'd have been just about as happy to grab.  If Clifton got picked by somebody else who thought he'd sign for a little less, the Cubs could just get Eicholz or who knows whomever else. 

But I wonder if deferring on Clifton till round 12 might not also indicate the Cubs really didn't want to let Hankins get away either.   After passing catchers through Friday, perhaps Hankins seemed like the best bet and they didn't really want to miss on him, too.  So maybe it reflects well on their level of interest in his possibilities?  Enough to risk Clifton and settling for a second-best superslot? 

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1013 on: June 10, 2013, 03:07:54 pm »
craig - Be carefull or you will make yourself crazy trying to figure something like that out. There is no way of either identifying all of the possible scenarios, much less making an educated guess which one might be accurate, much less actually confirming the real explanation.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1014 on: June 10, 2013, 03:12:43 pm »
Clifton’s arm was virtually spring-training ready on a recently concluded, month-long tryout tour for pro teams. It was no accident.

“If he threw a lot of pitches in one game, we would give him seven to 10 days rest,” Mountaineer coach Robbie Bennett said. “A lot of scouts said he’s got a fresh arm right now.”

Bennett never once yielded to the temptation to pitch Clifton on short rest, weighing always both the talented right-hander’s future and what his success, in the long run, could mean for the school.

“You get a kid like that, you don’t want to overthrow him,” Bennett said. “I think we as a staff did a good job of protecting him and looking out for his interests. Our kids are proud of him. It’s a big day for him and his family, and it’s a big day for this school.”

http://blountpressrow.com/2013/06/moneyball/

Jeez, a coach who is actually taking the long view and protecting a young player's arm.  Nice to see.  I wonder how rare this is - Kerry Wood's high school coach certainly did not share this approach, and I suspect not all that many do.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1015 on: June 10, 2013, 05:35:08 pm »
An early look at some of next year's top draft prospects:

http://m.si.com/3038187/01e4b6cd/

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1016 on: June 10, 2013, 06:38:11 pm »
Truly, it's awesome to see that kind of commitment to a kid's welfare from a HS coach.  A rare thing indeed. 

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1017 on: June 10, 2013, 11:38:10 pm »
Our 5th rounder, Trey Masuk (RHP Texas Tech), looks interesting...wiry athletic, nice FB (low 90s to 95), developing secondary pitches...hasn't given up a single HR in the last two years in college (well over 100 innings).

He was highly regarded after a great performance in the Cape Cod summer league, but had an arm-injury setback in the spring...otherwise, he'd probably have been gone well before we nabbed him.  Hope we can sign him, develop him (with Johnson's help) and that he stays healthy.  If so, he might be a keeper.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1018 on: June 11, 2013, 12:47:02 pm »
4    108    73    Tyler Skulina      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    RHP    Kent State    Ohio       
Ranked #73 in Baseball America's Top 500.
Skulina had aspirations of going in the first five rounds as an Ohio high schooler in 2010, but a back injury and his Virginia commitment dropped him to the Athletics in the 46th round. He spend just one semester with the Cavaliers before transferring to Kent State, helping the Golden Flashesmake their first-ever College World Series appearance last June. He has been inconsistent this spring, allowing 11 earned runs in two innings against Louisville, yet carrying a 95 mph fastball and a no-hitter into the eighth inning against Miami (Ohio). Skulina shows first-round stuff when he's at his best. The 6-foot-6, 225-pounder holds the velocity on a 91-96 mph fastball with tailing action, and he misses more bats with a tight 80-84 mph slider. He also uses a curveball to give hitters a different look and is working on a changeup. His up-and-down season is the product of inconsistent control and command, which likely will make him available in the third round.

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Re: 2013 Draft
« Reply #1019 on: June 11, 2013, 12:47:53 pm »
5    138    49    Trey Masek      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    RHP    Texas Tech    Texas       
Ranked #49 in Baseball America's Top 500.
Primarily a reliever as a sophomore, Masek emerged as one of the best righthanded starting pitching prospects in the Cape Cod League last summer. He carried that momentum over to the start of this season, when he allowed just one earned run and 21 hits in his first 40 innings. He hasn't been as sharp since a bout with rotator-cuff tendinitis sidelined him for a month. Masek throws strikes with four offerings, working primarily off an 89-93 mph fastball that reaches 95 and a curveball with some sharpness to it. He also has a short cutter/slider and a changeup. New Texas Tech pitching coach Ray Hayward, the 10th overall pick in 1983 and a former big leaguer, has done a nice job of helping him smooth out his delivery, which in turn has improved his command. Masek's relatively small stature (6-foot-1, 195 pounds) and monthlong layoff do lead to some concerns about his durability, though he still figures to go in the second round.

6    168    160    Scott Frazier      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    RHP    Pepperdine    Calif.       
Ranked #160 in Baseball America's Top 500.
Frazier's physical, projectable frame and big arm strength in high school prompted some scouts to predict he could become a candidate for the No. 1 overall pick after three years at Pepperdine if he smoothed out his delivery and refined his command. That has not happened. After an injury-marred freshman year, Frazier went 7-5, 3.39 as a sophomore and was 4-5, 4.35 this spring. He shows premium velocity, touching 94-96 mph early in games and settling in at 91-93 with late life, but he struggles to repeat his delivery and lacks command. Frazier struggles to sync up his 6-foot-7, 230-pound frame, collapsing on the front side and pitching uphill. His arm action is funky and violent, leading to long-term concerns about his durability. His curveball flashes plus, but he has difficulty throwing it for a strike, and hitters are often able to pick it up early and lay off the pitch in the dirt. He mixes in a solid changeup now and then, but he relies on his fastball and curve. Most scouts think he'll wind up in the bullpen, where his aggressiveness will be an asset, and he can be effectively wild in short stints.

7    198    248    David Garner      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    RHP    Michigan State    Mich.       
Ranked #248 in Baseball America's Top 500.
Garner has one of the stronger arms in the Big 10 Conference, reaching 94 mph with his fastball and flashing a plus slider. He sits in the low 90s with his heater, though it's not overpowering because it lacks life and his long arm action allows hitters to see it well coming out of his hand. He also tends to drift offline from the plate, which costs him command and leads to inconsistent results. His best outing of the season came when he allowed one run in 8 1/3 innings against a strong Kentucky lineup on March 9, but Garner also failed to win any of his first six starts in conference play. He has made improvements to his changeup, though he projects as a reliever because he's 5-foot-11 and 175 pounds. His stuff should play up and could become more reliable in shorter stints. A 33rd-round choice by the Reds from a Michigan high school in 2010, Garner could become Michigan State's highest draft pick since the Mets took Bobby Malek in the fourth round in 2002.

8    228    358    Sam Wilson      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    LHP    Lamar (Colo.) CC    Colo.       
Ranked #358 in Baseball America's Top 500.
Wilson got scouts' attention by touching 94 mph in workouts last fall. While he hasn't been quite that good this spring, he still showed an average fastball, sitting in the 88-91 mph range and topping out at 93. He is also an outfielder (though strictly a pitcher for pro ball), so scouts think he could add a couple of ticks when he focuses on pitching full-time. He mixes in a slider that could be an average pitch and an occasional curveball, but he will need to learn a changeup. Wilson has a strong frame at 6-foot-1 and 205 pounds, with an athletic delivery and a short, compact arm action, though he does have a little bit of a wrist wrap. With his athleticism, he will get every opportunity to start in pro ball and work on his secondary stuff.

9    258       Charcer Burks      [View Scouting Report]      [View Limit Calculations]    OF    Travis HS, Richmond, Texas    Texas       
Not in Baseball America's Top 500. Ranked 80 in Texas
Burks pushed himself into the top 10 rounds with a terrific workout the week before the draft. He ran a 6.5-second 60-yard dash and held his own with a wood bat against quality fastballs from Trey Masek (Texas Tech) and David Gates (Howard, Texas, JC). A 5-foot-11, 180-pound righthanded hitter, Burks has some strength in his hands and barrels the ball, though he lacks bat speed and power. His below-average arm will necessitate a move from shortstop to center field in pro ball. He has committed to McLennan (Texas) CC.