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dallasbear

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2160 on: May 04, 2015, 10:43:13 am »

Forte is probably gone after this year.

Well, he was supposed to be gone a few years ago when he was up for that second contract that so many here said he didn't deserve. 

Let's see what happens this year and maybe we sign him for another year but I don't see any signs of him slowing down.

Also glad we didn't trade Martellus Bennett.  He's 28...has 2 years to go on his deal.  He could easily play at a high level for 4 more years.  Look at the Cowboys Jason Whitten...33 and still going strong.

chifaninva

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2161 on: May 04, 2015, 11:10:41 am »
Forte is a good player, doesn't say much, does what's asked of him. We sure need to upgrade the run game and I'm not sure if just upgrading the line will be enough. Langford seems like a Forte clone (with maybe a bit more speed). I sure would like to have a change up guy, a bruiser... This season will tell the tale for Forte.. If Langford is Forte with fresh legs you can bet Forte is gone..

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2162 on: May 04, 2015, 11:27:09 am »
If Forte isn't gone he will be back with a much cheaper price tag for sure because you already have a much cheaper version.

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2163 on: May 04, 2015, 11:38:35 am »
Cheaper price tag would be good..

WshflThinking

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2164 on: May 04, 2015, 11:39:05 am »
They say speed kills and Lankford is clearly much faster than Forte. Lankford used to be a WR

dallasbear

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2165 on: May 04, 2015, 11:42:27 am »

Hopefully, Fox splits up the carries more between all 3 guys this season.  I wouldn't discount Carey - he isn't that big but he's the best inside runner of the 3.  Carey and Langford both are the same weight but they are radically different runners.

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2166 on: May 04, 2015, 11:51:31 am »
Yes, different runners for sure. Carey is shifty but not speedy or with a burst. Langford has a burst, you give him an inch and its 6 pts. Forte has trouble even if he does break through and often gets caught from behind. But none are power backs. None are good at getting 1 yard on a 3rd and one when you need it. It'll be interesting to see if that changes when our 6th rounder gets acclimated to the NFL. His development will be crucial

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2167 on: May 04, 2015, 11:53:55 am »
I remember when the Bears used the Fridge as a power back. This kid is even bigger.

chifaninva

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2168 on: May 04, 2015, 12:37:03 pm »
Talking about our backs and who will do what.. There's one thing that changes everything... Injury, the unknown...

dallasbear

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2169 on: May 04, 2015, 02:11:14 pm »

We should be in much better shape this year than we were last year in case Forte gets hurt.  Our depth chart also has 2014 draft choice Senorise Perry and the new FA Jacquizz Rodgers.

Oddly enough Forte is the biggest back of the bunch.

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2170 on: May 04, 2015, 02:29:52 pm »
Perry was an UDFA, but the point still stands.  He's around.

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2171 on: May 04, 2015, 02:51:53 pm »
After a hectic four days, Chicago Bears first-year general manager Ryan Pace’s first draft is in the books. Pace identified his needs and took the best players on his board and on paper, and the end result looks good.

The balance of picks is something the team has not seen in some time. Best Player Available was Pace’s plan and it seems as if he did a good job carrying that out.


1st Round: WR Kevin White, West Virginia


After trading away fan-favorite Brandon Marshall at the start of the offseason, Pace identified his man and got him with the help of the Washington Redskins fifth overall selection in Brandon Scherff. In his press conference, Pace claimed to have got his top target.

White’s only two knocks are being a “one-year wonder” and his lack of a complex route tree coming from West Virginia. Other than those two minor issues, White has the highest upside of any receiver in the draft. At 6-3 and with 4.35 speed, he is the ultimate combination of size, speed and overall ability. His best attribute is his ability to high-point each catch.

Overall, White provided good value as he was a Top-5 talent on most evaluator’s boards.

Grade: A


2nd Round: NT Eddie Goldman, Florida State


Pace somehow found a way to get another first-round talent with his second pick. Goldman’s floor is a two-down run stuffer but his potential is much closer to a Vince Wilfork-type impact.

From the start of free agency and leading into the draft, it became evident the team’s focus was on nose tackle over five-technique defensive end. This could mean one of two things: Either they do not value either Jeremiah Ratliff or Ego Ferguson at nose, or they see the tandem as better five-technique/rotational pieces in Vic Fangio’s unit.

Goldman may not begin the year as a full-time starter but his upside outweighs his floor, even in Year 1.

Grade: B+


3rd Round: C/G Hroniss Grasu, Oregon


Some saw Grasu as a small reach but he was the top center in the draft class until Cam Erving emerged on the scene. The biggest knock on the former Oregon Duck is his lack of scheme versatility due to his size.

Grasu’s positives more than outweigh his lack of size and versatility. He is a high-character player and a very good addition in the Bears' zone-blocking scheme. He has a great understanding for the game, which should give him have a chance to start from Day 1.

Grade: B


4th Round: RB Jeremy Langford, Michigan State


With Jay Ajayi, David Cobb and Mike Davis still on the board, many folks were scratching their heads over the selection of Langford. The former Michigan State Spartan simply fits the John Fox mold.

Langford ran a 4.41 at the combine and may not do anything great but he did tally just under 3,000 yards his last two years. He is also a willing pass protector and pass catcher that can help the team out on third downs this year and can become a strong part of a committee after 2015.

Grade: C


5th Round: FS Adrian Amos, Penn State


Amos comes as good value for a team that was in need of more competition at one of the weakest positions on the roster. Amos plays the ball well, while being positionally and scheme versatile.

The defensive back has played multiple positions over his collegiate career, including cornerback, and should provide good value on special teams as well, especially if he does not start.

Grade: B+


6th Round: OL Tayo Fabuluje, TCU


Tayo Fabuluje is an incredible story of an athlete overcoming the worst possible odds to somehow make his dream come true. His father was deported when he was five and his mom was arrested on theft charges and is still in prison. He once weighed close to 400 pounds, worked three jobs at one time and housed his sister all while taking a break after emerging as one of the nation's top rookie left tackles at TCU. He also transferred three times in the process and ended up playing in all 12 games his senior year.

The talent and upside is there, plus he’s 6-6 and around 353 pounds. The biggest question still remains: did the layoff hurt his development? Overall, he has the ability to become a starting offensive lineman in this league, whether that be at guard or tackle, but will probably need a year or two to develop.

Grade: C


Overall


Ryan Pace did a great job sticking to his board, especially for a first-year general manager. He filled big needs and grabbed multiple high-character players to add to a once-unstable locker room. Although he did not net any extra picks, Pace made the most of his six selections.

Overall Grade: B

Sportster

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2172 on: May 04, 2015, 03:10:56 pm »
If only he had chosen a rb after a tackle or safety, I'd say this draft was very good with the chances of being excellent had he done that....that rb is still a head scratcher to me. Much too high to pick a guy like that....

dallasbear

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2173 on: May 04, 2015, 03:41:50 pm »

More spouting off about taking the BPA.  In Pace's case there really wasn't a position in this draft that he couldn't draft and not fill a need:  Mariota, Gurly, Scherf, Shelton, White, Fowler, Beasley, Trae Waynes...all could have been defended.

Going in we figured WR/NT or NT/WR with the first 2 picks and the somewhat surprising Scherf pick and Goldman slipping out of the first round  made Pace come out looking very good...in May...check back in a year or two.

Jackiejokeman

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Re: 2014 and 2015 NFL Draft
« Reply #2174 on: May 04, 2015, 04:50:35 pm »



 Lets cut to the chase ...


 How good did we do ?