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dallasbear

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 09:22:43 am »

That falls on Loggains and Fox.

They don't trust Trubisky right now.  They don't appear to give him any pre-snap options.  Packers line up 9 guys within 3 yards of the LOS and they send Howard up the middle.  And do the same damn thing on 2nd down.

Bears need to incorporate more quick passing plays and lessen the decision making plays that Trubisky has to make.  Throw a 4 yard pass - see what happens.

Trubisky is now so gun-shy to throwing picks that he's lost his natural instincts.   And get him out of the pocket -Bears are calling the same plays that they did with Glennon the statue.



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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 11:33:16 am »

These are valid need-based picks.  Could substitute the 4th rounder WR with another CB as WR could be somewhat settled next year with a potential re-sign of Inman and Meridith and White returning plus the 1st round pick.

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2017, 01:20:03 pm »
I wouldnt count on White. I think he is toast. And to think he is now a millionaire and hasnt contributed squat. I believe Meredith will be back healthy. I wouldnt believe White will contribute any more than they can bring back a healthy Walter Payton.

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2017, 01:28:36 pm »

No, not counting on White but he will be part of the mix as he's still on his rookie deal and at this point you need as many guys to generate competition as possible.

Figure Meridith, maybe re-sign Inman, add a first or second round WR, plus backups White, McBride, and Wheaton is still under contract.  And then there's free agency...Alshon Jeffery anyone?


 

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2017, 01:32:35 pm »
Is Jeffery happy and productive in Philly? I am not so sure. At least they are winning which we arent. I doubt he moves without overpaying

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2017, 02:04:50 pm »

Happy?  What does that mean in the NFL?

Productive?  Yeah, 500 receiving yards and 5 TDs - no WR has more production.

He'll be a free agent - he'll move to the team that meets his $ demands with tiebreakers going to a team with a real offense.

Bears probably have the lowest payroll in the NFL at the WR position and it shows.  Imagine next year with Jeffery and Meridith, Inman, and a second round rookie plus whatever we get out of White.

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2017, 03:12:09 pm »
Interesting. I dont see the Bears going after Jeffery. We'll see what jeffery's numbers are after the season is over and where the Iggles are when their season is over. I dont envision Pace rushing to overpay Jeffery to get him back. And I dont see Jeffery eager to leave Philly. But miracles do happen. Maybe the Iggles miss the playoffs and Jeffery gets another 1000 yards and he becomes eager to move. Who knows what will happen before the season ends. I know I believe John Fox has a better chance to be gone before Jeffery comes back. And I havent heard Jeffery say he misses Chicago.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2017, 04:00:14 pm »

What does overpay mean?  So if we don't "overpay" does it mean we again sit with all this extra unused cap and a bunch of 2nd or 3rd tier receivers like Wheaton, Wright and Inman?

I'm not necessarily advocating signing Jeffery but we need to sign one of the top FA WRs next year.  You can't depend on either Meridith and White not only returning from injury but being productive and not to mention depending on any rookie WR regardless of round drafted.

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 04:16:29 pm »
Pace has said he wants to build through the draft. I dont see him going out after some high priced FA PERIOD. I expect him to go the draft route and pick up somebody who he thinks is an up an comer through FA. Will he be successful? Is there green cheese on the moon? I dont think so. Will he draft another WR with our 1st pick. I dont think so because he already got burned doing that. As for Jeffery I think he has burned his bridges here. And I think we arent going to get into a bidding war over him.

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2017, 04:31:34 pm »

Of course you want to build through the draft but you have to supplant that with free agency, especially when you only have a handful of draft picks AND glaring holes throughout your lineup.  Pace has been moderately successful in signing upper middle tier free agents like Hicks, Freeman, Trevathan, Amukamora, Massie, Sitton, McPhee, and a few younger FAs. 

But I'm NOT advocating that strategy with WR next year.  Get someone who scares the $hit out of opposing defenses.  Do you think the Pack feared any of our wideouts when they lined up 9 guys on the LOS? 

And I don't think Pace avoids drafting a WR with our first round pick just because White was so injury prone.   If a stud falls to us in round 1 I think Pace will draft him regardless of position or past injury status of their position.

My opinion is to go after the best pass rushing edge guy in round 1 and take a speedy WR in round 2. 

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 04:46:53 pm »
My opinion is to go after the best pass rushing edge guy in round 1 and take a speedy WR in round 2.

Thats what I hope will happen.  Seems to me from watching college football that there are a lot of good receivers available in this draft. The area I worry about is the CB class and we need top notch quality. We deviated from fixing the defense last year to draft Trubisky. This draft will show us whether Pace goes best player available or drafts for need. We know where the needs are
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2017, 06:07:28 pm »
Check out Arden Key of LSU...beast...

dallasbear

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2017, 06:32:09 pm »

Pace will tell you he drafts BPA but when you have so many needs it's not hard to say you follow a BPA philosophy.  By trading up in the last 2 rounds Pace is essentially accomplishing both.

Yes, Bears deviated from fixing the defense last draft with the Trubisky deal (Eddie Jackson the only defender), but Pace filled in the holes pretty well with some new and past free agents and the Bears now have the 9th ranked D in the league. 

So yeah, corner could be a 1st or 2nd round pick with no arguments with Fuller/Amukamara scheduled to be free agents.  And the guy that is not playing, Marcus Cooper, is signed through 2019.


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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2017, 08:42:49 pm »
BPA is not Shaheen in the 2nd.
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