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The 10 moves are voluntary on the part of the owner.  If teams manipulate service time and the 10 day DL, that has no effect on your 10.

I understand that, but in a league where you need 5 RPs and can easily waste 7 just looking for the new hot "closer of the month" 10 is really restrictive. like JR said, limit waivers last 30 days of season if need be. the loop hole of using moves for pitchers isnt much of a loophole as the SP can easily throw up a negative points game with the changes in the HR profile for MLB.

As with others, I believe 10 waivers is too few. Therefore, no.

As others have said, I would gladly support limitations on waivers in last 30 days or stipulations that owners must hold a recently-acquired-via-waivers player for a week or more, etc., or any other measures to control for what happened at the end of last year. But I don't think that reducing the number of waivers is the right solution.

No.

I would propose setting a limit for non-DL/Minors waivers per week. Especially the last month of the season.

Second Issue:  The Circle was petitioned to create an atmosphere where we might avoid the "disputed" finish that we had last year.  It was the consensus of the group that burning waivers for pitching changes the last month contributed heavily to missed changes, wrong dates, and, perhaps, lost points.  We wish to discourage that in the future.  To do so we are recommending the reduction in waivers from 15 to 10.  We also will commit to rechecking points the last week of the season only.

Rule: Owners have 10 waivers for the season.   Only the last 7 days of the season are reviewable for accuracy of moves.

Aye: Boris, 82, Chiman, Curt, Jamie
Nay: Dave, JR, ISF, method, Robb, grrr, tico, dev

Dave's nay was based on the fact that he and Curt felt there should be an added stipulation that all waivers in September had to be for a minimum of 7 days.

With 8 no votes, issue fails.

Since most of your objections were discussed in committee, I'm not sure it will be resurrected.  Sometimes we have perceptions and not facts.  In the last 3 years, we have only had 5 use all 15 waivers.  3 were this year by our leaders and the other two were Smurf in '15 and '16.  In the past 3 years, out of 48 owners, (16x3), 40 used 10 waivers or fewer.  Damb stats.

We have one more proposal we are waiting on.

Honestly, I think 15 waivers is the sweet spot for the right number to have.  It's small enough where you can't be making free agent signings every other day, but it's just enough where if you feel strongly about a player, you can feel comfortable pulling the trigger and still feel like you have plenty enough moves left over if someone else interesting comes along.

OK sir.

Everyone but buff and Sam have checked in.

Issue 3   In response to several calls for adjustments to our after deadline trade and waiver process, we are suggesting the following.  Please vote aye or nay.

This is the rule from BBFL.   We are suggesting changing the red to the blue.


They make a trade as we have always done and the trade is put up for vote on the board via the anonymous poll option at create-a-forum BBFL site.  Owners will be alerted that a vote is needed via mass email.  Each owner will have one vote; the voting is anonymous; failure to secure 9 votes vetoes the trade after 48 hours.  If the trade fails, the players involved cannot be traded again or placed on waivers.  (See below.)  Those players may be dropped into the pool, as during the regular season, should the need arise.  (A minor leaguer is brought up, a player is taken from the pool, owner has too many players due to an approved trade, etc.)

2.  They may post on the board a player they are placing through "waivers" along with their expected and required return.  In 48 hours, any owners who have met or exceeded that required return are awarded the player.  In case of several offers, the owner lowest in the standings at the time of the waiver is awarded the player.  If no offers are made, the player is withdrawn and cannot be offered again on waivers or in any trade.  (In short, be realistic with expectations.)

Please note that the regular waiver wire that applies to players new to the pool does not apply to this process.

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1.   They make a trade as we have always done and the trade is put up for vote on the board   Owners will be alerted that a vote is needed via mass email.  Each owner will have one vote; not voting counts as a yes vote, therefor only “protests” or “no’s” need to be made.  If only 7 no votes are recorded, the trade passes.

2.  They may post on the board a player they are placing through "waivers" along with their expected and required return.  In 48 hours, any owners who have met or exceeded that required return are awarded the player.  In case of several offers, the owner lowest in the standings at the time of the waiver is awarded the player.  If no offers are made, the player is withdrawn but can be waived up to 3 times or traded.

Please note that the regular waiver wire that applies to players new to the pool does not apply to this process.

Aye: Curt, 82, Chiman, method
Nay: Dave
Unknown: Boris