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Robb

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2019, 06:23:41 am »
Yes, and while I do think it hurts to have tanking teams I don't know what the solution would be. A monetary penalty, or any for that matter could keep people from joining or staying.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2019, 07:44:17 am »
Issue 1 passes.  Thank you.

To clarify to all, we already had a rule in place that owners could DL players who were not actually DLed by their teams because in September many teams don't bother to do so because of expanded rosters.  However, our rule for September DL's left those of us making the changes struggling to be fair in judging the situations.   All we're saying is we want something more concrete to make the changes in the future.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2019, 07:53:36 am »
     
The only times we allow a player to be DLed in September is that documentation is provided that clearly states that the player is shut down for the season.



Can we define what “documentation... that clearly states” means?

For example, CBS has an update saying “player X is likely shut down for the season due to...” but no official DL move is made by the MLB team. Does that CBS note constitute sufficient documentation for DL in our league?

CurtOne

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2019, 09:00:47 am »
     
The only times we allow a player to be DLed in September is that documentation is provided that clearly states that the player is shut down for the season.



Can we define what “documentation... that clearly states” means?

For example, CBS has an update saying “player X is likely shut down for the season due to...” but no official DL move is made by the MLB team. Does that CBS note constitute sufficient documentation for DL in our league?
In your example, "likely" means I ain't doin' it.  Documentation is something from the team, league, or news source that ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, WITHOUT QUESTION, refers to a player as out for at least two weeks or more.
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CurtOne

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2019, 12:26:00 pm »
This coming Thursday is the absolute deadline for finding another owner.  Failure to do so, automatically means contraction of a team.  (Contraction is easy.  You won't like what expansion would entail some day in the future.)

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2019, 02:31:25 pm »
Ok now I’m curious how would expansion work?

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2019, 03:14:13 pm »
some sort of protect 5, rest of your players can be raided by the new owner.

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« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2019, 03:37:35 pm »
Would their be limits on how many players each team could lose?  Would minor leaguers be included?  Would there be a separate minor league portion? 

The expansion team would get a deep 13, but they would be lacking in Star players. If you did a fewer number of protected players and then after every round teams get to protect more players they would have a pretty strong team. It would really compress the standings however it was done.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2019, 03:48:08 pm »
20+ years, and we haven’t ever expanded, and I doubt we ever will...every season it gets increasingly tougher to find new owners.
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CurtOne

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2019, 06:39:58 pm »
Yes, expansion would involve fewer keepers with owners able to take back players each round.

But, yes, I agree with my buddy Dave, it ain't likely to happen.  Each year BBF has lost posting members.  Most who leave our league also post much less often on the board as well.  The last few years we've been lucky to get a couple of Aussies and Doc.  Yet 4 or 5 years ago we had 3 guys interested.

A key to survival of our league is getting more people posting here again.  Not sure what that will take.


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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2019, 08:47:21 pm »
The biggest issue we have as a league is keeping all owners engaged for the entire season.

Anyone with ideas for that, I’m all ears...

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2019, 09:53:22 pm »
I think fantasy baseball is just more prone to drop off because of the length of the season. This league being a keeper league people will just know going in that they don’t have a chance and that will limit interest.

With the way the league is set up on waiver claims I certainly understand the desire to limit those moves, but I feel like limiting the flexibility of picking people up limits some interest. I spent a decent amount of time debating if I really wanted pick up this guy vs holding back a waiver claim.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2019, 11:57:22 pm »
Keeping owners engaged and taking care of their teams has been a problem for as long as I can remember.  I have no solutions.

CBJ, you are correct.  We have 13 keepers.  That makes it hard for bottom teams to rebuild.  And you are correct that many people would fear taking a bad team, but the team that's up for grabs this year is a good one.  It probably should have won last year and will compete again this year.  Matter pf fact. we probably should have a lottery to see if anyone wishes to take it and contract their current mess.

As Commissioner, the reason I keep fighting to not contract the league any further is that the smaller it gets, the harder it is to find people with which to trade.  When I joined, the league had 20 teams.   We had fewer players per team, but, yeah, most of our picks in the 9th and 10th rounds were total reaches.  Then we contracted to 18.  Now we are down to 16.  Hate going to 15.  Won't be long before we're at 12.  But maybe that's our destiny.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2019, 07:35:02 am »
I still think a playoff of some sort could help. Maybe a first half champ against a second half champ so those out of it after a bad start still have a chance and stay engaged.

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Re: BBFL 2019
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2019, 08:09:04 am »
I still think a playoff of some sort could help. Maybe a first half champ against a second half champ so those out of it after a bad start still have a chance and stay engaged.
We did entertain the idea, but the thought that the best team all season should prevail prevailed.