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craig

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #195 on: June 17, 2018, 01:54:45 pm »
https://cubscentral.wordpress.com/2018/06/12/inside-the-draft-process-good-stuff-from-sam-hughes-via-mick-gillispie-and-eric-cain/


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Another aspect that goes into selecting a Cub in the Theo Era is neuro scouting which predicts bat-to-ball skills. .... This year, those highest scores went to second round pick Brennen Davis. ...
Hughes also brought up compensation pick Cole Roederer as a pick he really liked. ..... Roederer’s a classic top of the order guy with some pop.
The final three guys Hughes talked about also detailed on why they were picked. Pitcher Paul Richan (Compensation round) was taken for his ability to throw strikes. 2B Andy Weber (5th round) from Virginia was taken as a hitter who has good bat-to-ball skills. Pitcher Ethan Roberts (4th round) flashed an amazing curve and cutter in his work this past weekend in the College World Series. Hughes thinks Roberts’ stuff will play up like Dakota Mekkes’ stuff has done as a pro. That’s a pretty cool comp. And again, Hughes praised the Cubs R&D staff for all the pitch data on Roberts, who could be an elite arm.
Thought Roederer as "top of the order with some pop" was an interesting synopsis.  That would be cool. Davis being tops on the neuro stuff interesting, which is supposed to project bat-to-ball skills (and I assume also pitch-recognition aptitude.)  Thought comping Roberts with Mekkes is a creative and unexpected comp.  (Roberts short/Mekkes is tall/massive; Mekkes fastball-heavy while Roberts scouting seems t emphasize breaking ball/spin-rate.)  But Hughes compared the two in that effective fastball projects better than perhaps the mediocre velocity readings would suggest.
With Richan he also mentioned analytics.  I can't even guess what nuanced factors they consider in their analytics analysis, but hoping they are seeing positive indicators that perhaps the media scouting reports didn't see or appreciate?   Spoke favorably about 5th rounder from Virginia as a bat-to-ball guy.  Mentioned Franklin only briefly, as a HS pick after the 2nd round. Only other name he mentioned after Franklin was Ezequiel Pagan, the 17-year-old CF from Puerto Rico (13th round).  So, likes Pagan, and I doubt he'd mention him if he didn't understand him to be signable.

Anyway, this was a *really* good interview.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #197 on: June 20, 2018, 10:07:47 am »
Nico Hoerner is a done deal at slot (2.724M), per Jon Heyman...

craig

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #198 on: June 20, 2018, 11:41:12 am »
Thanks, Dave.  Nice to have those wrapped, even if obvious and slot, because they can't use any of the expected overage until his deal is formalized. 

I haven't often seen $$ numbers for 3rd-day picks.  But have three 3rd-day senior-signs, rounds 21, 22, and 31, at $5K, $3K, and $1K.  Really slim $$ for those senior roster-fillers.  Kind of interesting that already by pick 21 you're down to ≤$5K values. 

14th junior got $125K slot. 


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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #199 on: June 20, 2018, 12:15:52 pm »

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9th-rder Derek Casey signs w/@Cubs for $130k (pick 278 value = $145,100). Virginia RHP, redshirt junior after Tommy John surgery after freshman season, changeup is best pitch, sits around 90 mph w/fastball. @MLBDraft


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8th-rder Zach Mort signs w/@Cubs for $140k (pick 248 value = $159,100). George Mason RHP, pounds the zone w/averageish stuff, 108/13 K/BB in 105 1/3 IP this spring. @MLBDraft

craig

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #200 on: June 20, 2018, 12:58:21 pm »
Interesting that senior-sign Casey still almost slot.  Did he still have a redshirt year left, if he wanted to try going pro at age 23 or 24 instead? 

Also kind of curious that they do these teensy sub-slot deals in rounds 8-10.  $19K, $15K, and $12K savings? 

Looks like they're basically using a 90% formula?  "Mort, we wanna save a little bit here, but IF were to to offer almost slow, like slot minus 10%, are you interested?"   "Casey, if we offer 90% slot, will you sign, or rather go back to school or hope for a better deal tomorrow?  My scouting director says we can't do a full slot deal here, but he said that if I love a player as much as I want to sign you, that I can go as high as 90%.  What do you think, could we get a deal done at 90% even if it isn't quite full slot?"   

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #201 on: June 20, 2018, 02:43:11 pm »
Callis had Casey as a redshirt Junior but MLB.com lists him as 4th year senior.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #202 on: June 20, 2018, 07:40:10 pm »
I tried to do a little work for the board. I’m in Omaha and sat near the Arkansas bullpen today. I asked Jake Reindl if he was going to sign with the Cubs. An Arkansas fan angrily responded “he’s coming back to Arkansas”. Reindl looked at me and shrugged and said “not sure yet”.

So really it isn’t much of an update but the door isn’t closed either.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #203 on: June 20, 2018, 08:07:00 pm »
You should have shot the Arkansas fan in the head with a large caliber firearm.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #204 on: June 20, 2018, 08:49:05 pm »
If you are going to blow his brains out, you don't need a large caliber.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #205 on: June 20, 2018, 10:36:08 pm »
They invented the toothbrush in Arkansas.  Any place else it would have been called a teethbrush.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #206 on: June 21, 2018, 11:41:07 am »
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3rd-rder Jimmy Herron signs w/@Cubs for $520k (pick 98 value = $570,600). Duke OF, feel to hit w/wood bats, OBP > power, plus runner, didn't play CF in college but could in pro ball. @MLBDraft

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #207 on: June 21, 2018, 12:21:13 pm »
A tad more info on Reindl.....sounds like he may sign per someone that would likely know. With that said, he has a big issue with his back which is why he hasn’t pitched yet. Once he pitches he is done for 3-4 days with back pain. Will likely get a high leverage appearance soon but then he will be out for awhile.

I asked if this was a chronic issue or just something he is battling now. The guy I spoke with seemed to think it was something that would need attention to get better.

craig

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #208 on: June 21, 2018, 12:31:58 pm »
Thanks, jhawk.  Interesting. 
Seems like pro-organization with 12-month involvement in care and treatment plan would be best case for a guy. 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #209 on: June 21, 2018, 02:00:21 pm »
And the Cubs are building (or have built) a state of the art facility for rehabbing players at Wrigley. Not sure is a minor leaguer or draftee would get to use the facility but I would think that it could open up options for the team when looking at players facing this sort of issue.