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goblue007

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2018, 08:45:08 pm »
Good pick! Sharp young man.
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Dave23

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2018, 08:47:17 pm »
The new market inefficiency?

Players who can actually hit?
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Jes Beard

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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2018, 08:52:12 pm »
Anytime the second paragraph about a draft pick begins with mentioning that both of his parents are teachers....

Well, there are other picks left.

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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2018, 09:07:38 pm »
Cubs care most about one stat - winning...and Hoerner sure sounds like the type of player who is all about that. 

That he's an outstanding athlete who has excelled against excellent competition and is a smart, strong student makes him like Almora, Bryant and Happ and it's obvious Schwarber is a very smart, team-oriented guy, too.

Hoerner was selected at #24, not top 10, so we shouldn't expect him to grow into one of our top-10 studs!  However, we probably can expect he will contribute mightily when his time occurs!  Our current FO makes damn few important mistakes!  (and way fewer than other teams!


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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2018, 09:10:13 pm »
I wonder if he and the Cubs agreed to a below-slot deal prior to his selection.

Some really nice college arms still on the board...

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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2018, 09:12:20 pm »
Here's what McLeod says about Hoerner (on Cubs website):

"Nico is a talented middle infielder who handles the bat extremely well, hits to all fields and has a high contact rate. He hits the ball hard, and we think there is more power to come," said Jason McLeod, Cubs senior vice president of scouting and player development.

"He has multiple tools on the field, and all the background work we did shows he has incredible make-up. He fits exactly what we're looking for in the organization."

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2018, 09:13:21 pm »

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#Cubs McLeod says expects more power from @nico_hoerner and that he has elite hand-eye coordination

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Stanford coach David Esquer was a minor league infielder in the Angels organization when Cubs manager Joe Maddon was a hitting instructor. "Joe is going to love what Nico is all about," Esquer said.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2018, 09:17:33 pm »
Here's more from Esquer:

Stanford head coach David Esquer liked the situation. Will Matthiessen’s two-run homer had tied the score 5-5 in the ninth inning of the regular-season finale at Washington on Saturday.

Later in the inning, the Cardinal had the bases loaded with two outs.

“If it had to come down to this,” Esquer said he was thinking. “I’m completely happy with whatever happens.”

That’s because Nico Hoerner was at the plate. The junior shortstop is expected to be a high pick in next week’s MLB draft not just because of his .349 average and his slick fielding. It’s because of his will to succeed.

Sure enough, he beat out a slow roller to third base, and the decisive run scored in a 6-5 win that gave the Cardinal their first Pac-12 title since 2004.

“Nobody wants to win as much for the team as much as Nico does,” Esquer said. “I’ve had a lot of great players but haven’t had as good a team player who was really willing to accept all his personal results with the one focus being on: ‘I just want this team to win as many games as possible and do what I can to help them win.’”

ticohans

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2018, 09:24:57 pm »
Hawk Harrelson’s scouting grade: TWTW 80

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2018, 09:43:12 pm »
Royals take Bubic...that's 4 college pitchers for them in the first 40 picks...

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2018, 09:58:08 pm »
The draft system is so messed up. The Indians and Cards clearly need competitive balance picks.

Pads basically paid a 10x premium for the Twins’ balance pick, meaning the free value to Cle and Stl is somewhere in the neighborhood of $16 to $17M...
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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2018, 10:20:21 pm »
Hoerner's HR power has been increasing:  0 > 1 > 2. 

Not much speed. 

Not sure how good the defense projects. 

Wonder if he might project to be something of a Ryan Theriot?  (Maybe Ryan-Theriot-at-his-best?)  Theriot had an 8-year, 6.7 WAR career, hit .281.  We may not have the best memories, but prime-Theriot had a .745 OPS one year and hit 7 HR's the next, with .387 and .345 OBP.  *IF* you had a guy who could do that for longer than two years, that might be a good pick. 

Maybe poor comp; Theriot walked a lot, plus regularly stole 20+ bases.  Hoerner doesn't walk, and obviously doesn't have that kind of speed. 

Deeg mentioned RH LaStella....  If LaStella could play a good SS/2B, I'd love to have that. 

But, LaStella is kind of amazing as hitter, pretty sure not getting that. 
 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2018, 10:21:19 pm »
Wow, Royals take Jonathan Bowlan at 58...5 college pitchers.

He had an 18 K game earlier this season. My son played against him quite a bit.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2018, 10:27:12 pm »
2 (62) - Brennen Davis - OF - Basha HS (AZ)

6'4", 175 R/R

#146 prospect on mlb.com

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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2018, 10:30:30 pm »
Davis has a Miami commitment, sounds like a very toolsy long-term project. 70 runner with a very strong arm and potential to hit for both average and power.

Adam Jones / Lewis Brinson comps if everything goes as dreamed...
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