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Dave23

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2021, 03:17:14 pm »
He sounds like a great guy to take sub-slot...

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2021, 03:30:17 pm »
Another 23-year-old senior in 6th round. 

Not sure I see what the Cubs need to sub-slot for?  Unless they're maybe saving up for an overslot prospect ahead?  Wouldn't think that Gray or Triantos are great enough to command big superslot?  Wouldn't there be some other good prospects who wouldn't need superslot? 

Dumb rules question:  *IF* they hypothetically sub-slot in rounds 1-10, are they allowed save some of that in order to superslot in rounds 11-20?  Or is $150K (or whatever) the max for 3rd day picks, regardless of whether they spent their shots on days 1+2? 
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« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2021, 03:32:48 pm »
Im not claiming to be Baseball America.

Im just going off what my eyes saw.

Im a strong UT baseball supporter so Im sure I saw more than most but when you watched the games he always hit leadoff and all they ever mentioned was his hitters eye and how he had a 50 something game on base streak.

I never said he sucked in the field just that his strength was his hitting.

I was personally hoping they'd take UTs 2nd baseman Max Ferguson who went like 6 picks later.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2021, 03:33:06 pm »
7th round, another senior, this one will turn 23 in two weeks. 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2021, 03:38:35 pm »
Dumb rules question:  *IF* they hypothetically sub-slot in rounds 1-10, are they allowed save some of that in order to superslot in rounds 11-20?  Or is $150K (or whatever) the max for 3rd day picks, regardless of whether they spent their shots on days 1+2? 

The former.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2021, 03:50:03 pm »
https://quhawks.com/sports/baseball/stats/2021

23-year-old 6th-round lefty, look at his weird stats. 
152K/78.2 innings, led D2 in K's.  But still allowed 66 hits, 3 of them HR. 
-usually if you're averaging >1.9K/IP, I'd expect the H/IP to be way less than 0.8. 
I think that means the BABIP-allowed was over .430. Crazy. 

Guy is an A-student as a chemistry/biology major.  Maybe he can become a future coach like Breslow?


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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2021, 03:59:48 pm »
8th round, another guy who'll turn 23 this month.  Four straight picks who are either already 23 or will turn 23 by the end of July.  Maybe they liked Triantos and Gray more than I thought? 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2021, 04:08:44 pm »
Quincy University...heh, they wanted my son to come there...especially after this day...

https://lincolnlandloggers.com/news/2018/4/11/baseball-sweeps-quincy-university.aspx
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2021, 04:11:55 pm »
I don't know enough about the draft class as a whole to have a meaningful opinion, but based on the writeups I'm seeing, it seems that the Cubs are stretching for upside wherever possible, even with their signability picks. Chavers, for example, was likely 1st round material before he tore his labrum in 2019. Getting that guy as a 23 year old, post-injury, we'll sign him cheap, but there's a ceiling well beyond the traditional college senior draftee.

Obviously the first rounder isn't a traditional upside pick, but if a guy you have in the top 10 finds you at 21, you have to be pretty happy about that.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2021, 04:20:27 pm »
Or a guy like Drew Gray. Just started pitching. Supposedly the spin rate on his 4 seam is 2800 rpm... that's like best in majors level, 100th percentile. Extreme risk/reward pick there.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2021, 04:44:05 pm »
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Chavers ranked as the No. 167 prospect in the 2020 class and likely would have ranked higher than that if it wasn’t for an arm issue that prevented him from playing at all in the shortened season. Plenty of scouts really liked the five-tool ability Chavers has shown, but they wanted to see more collegiate production and were a bit worried about some of his swing-and-miss tendencies. This spring, Chavers led the Chanticleers in hitting and posted a .318/.407/.477 line with five home runs and lowered his strikeout rate from 18% in 2019 to 13%. Listed at 5-foot-11, 185 pounds, Chavers is a plus-plus runner with above-average defense, above-average arm strength and at least solid raw power. He didn’t tap into as much in-game juice this spring as he showed in 2019, but that overall tool set from a lefthanded-hitting center fielder is typically coveted by scouts. What could complicate Chavers’ draft stock is his age. He’ll be 23 just after the draft and how teams decide to weigh that could lower him on some boards. While Chavers does have the tools for an everyday profile, he has struggled throughout his collegiate career against lefthanders, and this spring hit just .246/.313/.328 against them in an admittedly small sample—though he also struggled against southpaws in 2019

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2021, 04:47:09 pm »
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A 27th-round pick of the Indians in 2017 coming out of high school, Opitz has played nearly 150 games for Arkansas, although thanks to the coronavirus eligibility rules, he could return for another year in 2022. Opitz does everything scouts want to see behind the plate. He’s an excellent catch-and-throw catcher with arguably the best arm in the draft class. Opitz regularly records plus-plus pop times. He has thrown out 43% of basestealers for his career, and his presence has largely led some teams to shut down their basestealing when he’s at work. He works well with pitchers and shows excellent ability to block balls in the dirt. So why has a catcher with above-average defense and a plus-plus arm struggled to gain traction with scouts? It’s the bat. Opitz projects as a well below-average hitter with bottom-of-the-scale power. He has hit five home runs in over 500 career plate appearances. His 2021 season (.259/.370/.351) tracks right in line with his .253/.365/.344 career line at Arkansas. Opitz understands the strike zone and draws walks, but he struggles to catch up to velocity. A team picking Opitz knows it will be getting a backstop who can improve a pitching staff, but to even be an MLB backup he’ll need to significantly improve as a hitter.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2021, 04:48:32 pm »
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Watkins is no stranger to playing in various environments, having started his career at Cal Poly in 2019 before transferring to College of Central Florida in 2020, where he went 4-1, 1.91 with 44 strikeouts in 28.1 innings. He found a home in Oregon State’s bullpen this season, where he was used as a situational lefthander. Watkins has a long frame at 6-foot-4, 217 pounds, with a fastball that sits 90-92 mph. He commands the pitch well, and has shown the ability to spin his hammer curveball. He also throws a cut-action slider and changeup, with good deception thanks to his arm speed. Some evaluators believe he has the stuff to start, although he has just 14 collegiate starts to his name.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #73 on: July 12, 2021, 04:50:06 pm »
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Riley Martin

The 6-foot-1, 215-pound lefthander is a fifth-year senior at Quincy who racked up 152 strikeouts in his 78.2 innings this season, making him an attractive choice for evaluators with a likely low price tag. The southpaw has been 88 to 92 with a fastball that has some ride, coupled with a plus curveball, leading to his success.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
« Reply #74 on: July 12, 2021, 04:54:09 pm »
Cubs wrap up the draft with another 23-year-old in round 10.  So five of their last 6 picks were either 23 or will turn so by end of the month. 

The 9th rounder is only 21, a lefty reliever.