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Reb

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Cubs Draft 2023
« on: June 20, 2023, 02:57:16 pm »
Putting this here in the old 2022 draft topic pending a new 2023 draft thread.

So, maybe Cubs try to get 3B of the future in 1st round this year’s draft?

Keith Law has new mock up today and seems to say Cubs focus is on infielders who can hit. Seems like all four are SSs that likely are going to move elsewhere in the infield

13. Chicago Cubs – Colin Houck, SS, Parkview High (Lilburn, Ga.)

Houck and Aidan Miller apparently had great workouts for the Cubs recently, adding their names to a mix that also includes that same college hitter group, notably Shaw and [Tommy] Troy (Stanford)…….Shaw is one of the best hitters in the college class, with hard contact and power, but needs to play somewhere other than shortstop. He’s one of many college bats I’ve heard [also linked to Boston].. all of whom are good batted-ball data guys as well as hitters scouts believe will continue to hit in pro ball.
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CUBluejays

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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2023, 04:07:07 pm »
My completely uninformed opinion is Matt Shaw sounds really interesting and Chase Dollander if he falls.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2023, 04:41:11 pm »
Yeah, could see Cubs taking a high-upside SP who surprisingly falls to #13 but otherwise maybe a Brooks Lee type bat who Cubs passed on last year.

Seems like several interesting IF bats could be there at #13. A college guy like Shaw could move fast in player development, particularly as he was league MVP at the Cape last summer.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2023, 05:16:08 pm »
Eric Longenhagen (Fangraphs) released Mock today with following comments around Cubs/nearby teams in order:

“12. Arizona Diamondbacks
Pick: Aidan Miller, 3B, Mitchell HS (FL)
13. Chicago Cubs
Pick: Nolan Schanuel, 1B, Florida Atlantic
14. Boston Red Sox
Pick: Blake Mitchell, C, Sinton HS (TX)

Miller’s name pops up at all three of these picks, and if the Cubs and Red Sox want him but have their pockets picked by the D-backs, they might each check down to a college safety valve. Maryland’s Matt Shaw is often mentioned in this general area, but Schanuel has been mentioned specifically with the Cubs (and as high as the Angels).”

So, Longenhagen has Cubs taking a lefty bat 1B/OF from a lower-tier college program. One interesting thing about Schanuel is that he has more HBP (18) than Ks (14)! Don’t see that too often over a 59 game season. Has a ridiculous OPS (1.483) but that’s at a less challenging conference than the other top college guys. Still, 71 walks and 14 Ks is pretty good at most any level. Might be a guy who moves fast to the majors. If he’s the pick, maybe Cubs not that enthusiastic about Mervis future.

Of course, any mock pick is guesswork. But, think just maybe Cubs pop a corner IFer——either 3B (several candidates) or Schanuel at 1B. Or, maybe there’s a pitcher they really like.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2023, 05:29:12 pm »
I’ve seen Arjun Nimmala mentioned on more than one mock for the Cubs…which would be interesting…
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2023, 06:46:39 pm »
Quote from: Dave23 on July 06, 2023, 05:29:12 pm
I’ve seen Arjun Nimmala mentioned on more than one mock for the Cubs…which would be interesting…
me too
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2023, 08:25:08 pm »
Longenhagen:

"Indications are that Nimmala, who struck out a ton this spring, is falling."

So, Longenhagen now has him going at #20.

Perhaps he's wrong or things will change by Sunday.  With other options out there, not sure whether Cubs would go with high ceiling, low floor HS shortstop.  But, maybe.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2023, 08:56:40 pm »
The Cubs being interesting in an athletic SS who can't make contact, that seems like a Cubs-type thing? 
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2023, 09:35:45 pm »
Mayo at Pipeline has a Mock out this evening…….with Nimmala going to Cubs. But, he notes: “If Nimmala doesn’t go here, it might become a little tougher to find him a home in this range.”

Lots of guesswork, of course.

I know nothing about who might be the best selection, but thinking may feel better about a “Jordan Walker type” over a “Ed Howard type.”
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2023, 05:26:16 pm »
Law has the Cubs taking Shaw.  Nimmaka falling to the Cards.  He mentioned Adian Miller had a great work out with the Cubs falling to the Mariners.

The 1B doesn’t have much power and that makes him a lot less interesting.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2023, 05:40:00 pm »
Just take the best middle of the order bat on the board.  We’re woefully short on them at every level.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2023, 05:58:46 pm »
The problem is the good middle of the order bats are going before the Cubs pick or they are high schoolers.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2023, 06:30:14 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on July 07, 2023, 05:58:46 pm
The problem is the good middle of the order bats are going before the Cubs pick or they are high schoolers.

Then take the high schooler.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2023
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2023, 07:50:08 pm »
Of course, nobody can really project very well who is going to be a good middle of the order bat.

So many examples. One of the latest: Corbin Carroll went #16 overall.

Just have to take the guy you like the most.

Schanuel, the 1B, is said to have “solid” power but not “huge” power. Guesswork as to how that plays out as a pro. If Cubs take him, probably means they like his power potential.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2023, 09:22:19 pm »
Carroll went 16 because he was short, his talent was always there.

Power is one of the easier things to project, and it got better with statcast data.  Now maybe a team looks at him and they think with a swing change you can unlock more power.

Carroll coming off his 21 year old season had a 55/60 Raw power grade and 50/55 game power (present/future).  Schanuel coming off his 21 year old season is 30/50 Raw power, 45/45 game power.  50 is league average.  Schanuel’s 90th percentile EV is 106 with the major league average is 103.5.  That sounds decent until you take into account he was in a bad conference with a metal bat.  His plate skills are intriguing, but the bat really has to play at 1B and without the power it makes it really hard.
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