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Playtwo

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #930 on: May 28, 2011, 06:27:40 am »
Yessir.

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #931 on: May 28, 2011, 11:34:43 am »
Don't ever tell Jes what you meant because he'll be the judge of what you said.

Playtwo

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #932 on: May 28, 2011, 11:42:58 am »

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #933 on: May 28, 2011, 12:01:09 pm »
Hate to point the obvious out to you, StrikeZone, but what a person says is an objective matter.  It is there.  It can not be altered after the fact.  It can be clarified, repudiated, corrected, affirmed, rebutted, reinforced or denied.  But what is said is an objective fact, and anyone reading or hearing it can come to his or her own conclusions about it, and argue what it it meant or expressed or what was intended.

What was in fact meant is entirely subjective.  I seldom make efforts to tell a person what he meant.  At the same time, I do not hesitate to point out what the words used, or how they were used, meant, because that is all we have to go on until a person launches into some of that clarification, repudiation, correction stuff.

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #934 on: May 28, 2011, 12:09:52 pm »
Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd ignore.

I'm just not in the mood for you today, Jes.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #935 on: May 28, 2011, 12:16:22 pm »
Join half the board, SZ.  :)

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #936 on: May 28, 2011, 12:32:07 pm »
I know I was one of the last holdouts, Curt.

Lack of sleep + migraine + Jes  just isn't a good combination.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #937 on: May 28, 2011, 04:48:01 pm »
I mentioned this to Davep, Boris, and Badger yesterday and so I thought I'd post it here.

Yesterday morning I'm up at 5:00 to go down and catch Amtrak in Springfield to go to the game at Wrigley.  On the platform are Cub fans of all ages, some born b.c. like Davep, families of five kids--six, counting dad, for mom to take care of, guys in their twenties, business/professional looking guys, college age girls...all dressed in Cubbie colors, caps, jackets, jerseys.  And all just excited not only about the fact that they're going to Wrigley but the Cubs have actually won a couple.  "Maybe we got this thing turned around and we'll still catch the Cards!" and other nonsense flowing from their lips.  Praise of Soriano and Barney and Marmol...worship.

These were fans and they didn't want to hear what a jacka$$ Hendry is or that the team has pitchers that most teams would DFA or that most of the hitters are having horrible years or that so many of Quade's moves are head-scratchers.  They didn't care.  They were going to Wrigley to watch their Cubs.

It provoked two thoughts.  One, away from a cynical board--and almost all of them finally become cynical--because we all become like family and we rant and bare our souls to family and we're all knowledgeable fans, some with inside info, but many with baseball backgrounds, so it's easy to forget this is supposed to be fun when we overanalyze roster moves and OPS's.

Two: we're f******* doomed because the sheep will keep going to Wrigley, so meaningful changes won't happen.

But, man, the pain keeps outpouring at other boards.  Stuff like this:

I bought these tickets 4 good seats back in Feb.  Paid $280 for them after tax.  Paid $30 to park today, traffic really stunk.  Had one old style, bought my wife and two daughters burgers and cokes.  By the time I was thinking about ordering a 2nd beer, it was 5-0. We got our first hit around the time my 7 year old started asking if we could leave.I left in the 7th.  Didn't even want to stick around and see what reject they had sing the stretch (that has to go Ricketts...please!)Total damage for the day was around $400.I will not be back any time in 2011 and won't even think about buying tickets again until this team shows me its worth my hard earned money.  I love Wrigley, but I've been there enough times to not need to go anymore. Walking in I heard a "scalper" offer upper level reserved seats for $5 a piece...wow.

Clarkaddison

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #938 on: May 28, 2011, 04:52:34 pm »
I live in San Diego. Usually I'll spend a week in Mesa for spring training and make a couple of trips to Chicago when the Cubs are in town.

This year I skipped Mesa and have no plans to go to Wrigley.

They've burned me too often.

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #939 on: May 28, 2011, 06:09:06 pm »
I've never been to Wrigley and don't expect to ever make a trip there, even if they win the World Series.

I did make it to one Cubs Convention in 2008.

That's about all I will ever do as far as Cubs events.

Playtwo

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #940 on: May 28, 2011, 06:25:43 pm »
I live in San Diego. Usually I'll spend a week in Mesa for spring training and make a couple of trips to Chicago when the Cubs are in town.

This year I skipped Mesa and have no plans to go to Wrigley.

They've burned me too often.
Clark, ST is a blast no matter how awful the Cubs are during the regular season.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #941 on: May 28, 2011, 09:57:12 pm »
Cubs are now on pace for a 71-91 season.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #942 on: May 28, 2011, 11:30:30 pm »
Don't look now, but Barney's OPS is down to .710.  Carriage looks to be turning back into a pumpkin.

StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #943 on: May 28, 2011, 11:34:33 pm »
Yeah, he needs to start making better adjustments.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #944 on: May 28, 2011, 11:47:06 pm »
I last saw a game at Wrigley around 1955. when I was a young lad and my parents were visiting Chicago every summer. I used to see the Cubs play the Cardinals in St. Louis several times a season, back when tickets were reasonably priced and 20,000 was a big crowd. The last time I paid to see the Cubs play was in Houston, in 1976. I've seen them a couple of times since, on freebie tickets.

I still follow the team but, like my parents, I don't expect them to win a World Series during my lifetime.