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bitterman

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #945 on: May 29, 2011, 12:32:26 am »
Who can be moved in any hopes of being better by 2020?

1. Carlos Zambrano - You might get a pretty good player or two
2.  Marlon Byrd - not likely getting much
3.  Kosuke Fukudome - he's probably getting dealt to a team that appreciates good D and high OBP.
4.  Jeff Baker - getting nothing for him, but whatever
5.  Sean Marshall - probably your most marketable player.  A lefty reliever, with a knockout curve, and young for a reliever.  Might be time to move him before he gets hurt or walks.

This team is going no where any time soon ... they have no power ... outside of Wood/Marshall/Marmol their pen is garbage.  No one will take Soriano, so you've got a substandard left fielder for the next 4 years.  You can't move Ramirez, because of his fantastic contract clause, and if you resign him your a fool.  Pena is actually playing well, statistically, relative to the last few years ... but you'll get squat for him, too.

Wow.  This team is just atrocious.

bitterman

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #946 on: May 29, 2011, 12:49:02 am »
Look at what the Cards are going through:  Pujols is struggling.  They lost one of their best pitchers.  Carpenter isn't throwing well ... but it doesn't matter.  Friken Berkman is having a career renaissance, with an OBP of over .460.  Double friken Kyle Lohse has an ERA of around 2????  They bring up pitchers from the minors, and they are lights out:  Jaime Garcia, 1.93 ERA.   I'm sorry ... the Cubs are cursed.  It's cursed with crappy management, crappy coaches, and a lot of the time, crappy fans.

And luck.  This organization has none.  Pretty much every top pitching prospect for this team, what happens to them?  Wood, Prior, Cashner, Guzman, Harkey, Dickson .... it's getting old.  You've got a few long time soap operas being canceled ... pull the plug on the longest running one.  The Chicago Cubs.

I think this is yet another low point for the Cubs.  There is no real hope for them any time soon.  There are NO stud position prospects in the system (I don't think you can call Brett Jackson a "stud" prospect), and Trey McNutt is your only top tier pitching prospect.  They spend all this money on a magical hitting coach:  how's that working out? 

@#$#.  Go Cubs!

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #947 on: May 29, 2011, 12:53:37 am »
This sums up the Cubs perfectly:

"I was talking with my agent about 10 days ago about teams that were interested in me, and he said nobody was interested."
—Pitcher Rodrigo Lopez on being traded to the Cubs

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #948 on: May 29, 2011, 12:58:50 am »
The worst organization in professional sports.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #949 on: May 29, 2011, 10:06:10 am »
Brad Snyder is at Wrigley.

Reed Johnson to the DL?

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #950 on: May 29, 2011, 10:22:19 am »

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #951 on: May 29, 2011, 10:23:59 am »
Snyder is not on the 40-man roster so they put Cashner on the 60-day DL for a week or so?

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« Reply #952 on: May 29, 2011, 10:34:49 am »
Geovany Soto is also at Wrigley this morning.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #953 on: May 29, 2011, 11:22:04 am »
Snyder is not on the 40-man roster so they put Cashner on the 60-day DL for a week or so?

Can you move a guy from the 60 day DL back to the 30 day DL.  I thought once you are on it, you are on it until you are reactivated. 

Not that it has any practical effect, but I wonder what the answer is.

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« Reply #954 on: May 29, 2011, 12:27:32 pm »
Snyder is not on the 40-man roster so they put Cashner on the 60-day DL for a week or so?
Yes, they did.  I think he is eligible be activated June 5.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #955 on: May 29, 2011, 01:32:57 pm »
And luck.  This organization has none.

Not really.  Plenty of luck.  Just BAD luck.  Born under a bad sign, been down since I began to crawl....
If it wasn't for bad luck, wouldn't have no luck at all....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECUlpVPzN4&feature=related


I think this is yet another low point for the Cubs.  There is no real hope for them any time soon.  There are NO stud position prospects in the system....

Wouldn't Guyer and Hak-Jue Lee look nice on the horizon right now?  Guyer is now at .324/.405/.554/.959 in AAA ball, and Lee, 20 years old all season long, is in the Florida League with a line of .368/.446/.510/.956   



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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #957 on: May 29, 2011, 01:59:15 pm »
When WGN fist came on the air they showed a bit of Mike Quade's pre-game press conference.  Somebody in the background asked Quade about Alfonso Soriano.  It turns out that it was Bruce Miles

I asked Q about Soriano in left field and whether it just is what it is.


“I believe so,” he answered. “I feel bad for him from the standpoint of his legs just not being what they were and not allowing him to get to balls. I think sometimes it looks worse than it is. I’d love for him to be able to get to some of those balls. I watch him work with (coach Ivan DeJesus) every day. Being an inexperience guy who didn’t play outfield from the get-go, he has a tougher time around the wall than a lot of guys who have done that for their entire life. This outfield here is not easy. I watched McCutchen, who is pretty damn good, get himself caught in the same situation. Granted, he’s 400 feet but has the speed to get back there.”

In politics,, they call that "spin".  I'd use a different term.


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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #958 on: May 29, 2011, 02:01:57 pm »
Quade should just retire while he is in good health.  He is in way over his head.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #959 on: May 30, 2011, 12:28:32 am »
Over this many seasons, it's not bad luck...it's bad management!

Kidding ourselves to think otherwise.