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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1185 on: June 05, 2011, 01:11:07 pm »
Bruce Miles

Darwin Barney needs a rest.

The Cubs have the dubious distinction of having four players in the bottom six of BB percentage in baseball. The tops are Vladimir Guerrero (2.2), Marlon Byrd (2.7), Orlando Cabrera (2.9), Barney (3.1), Castro and Alfonso Soriano (3.2).


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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1186 on: June 05, 2011, 01:14:24 pm »
Perhaps we should fire the hitting coach and hire a walking coach. It'll get much worse next year, after Fuku and Pena leave.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1187 on: June 05, 2011, 01:20:33 pm »
Statheads: what kind of walk ratio did the Rangers have when the current hitting coach was there?

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1188 on: June 05, 2011, 01:47:52 pm »
Miles is really stellar - one of the best at one he does.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1189 on: June 05, 2011, 02:09:33 pm »
That would be a major violation there.

Why would there be a violation?  Dempster would not be hurt, nor would the team signing him, and effectively it would be little different from the Dempster picking up the option and the Cubs then trading him, even if the trade required the Cubs to eat a major chunk of the contract.... a chunk which would end up being about what the Cubs would have to make up in the difference between Dempster's current option and whatever he could sign for.

Why would anyone care, particularly care enough to include it in the basic agreement between MLB and the MLBPA?

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1190 on: June 05, 2011, 02:23:28 pm »
It really is time to start fixing this team.  The first thing that must be done is to show Hendry the door.

Hendry has generally seemed to do well at satisfying his immediate superiors.  I see no reason to believe that is changing or has changed, and doubt that he will be removed.  At the moment I am not saying that is good or bad, but simply that I doubt that Ricketts will do it.

I would revamp the whole minor league system as well.

How?  Seriously.  Revamp it in what way?  I would like to see the Cubs add a couple of minor league affiliates and aggressively add prospects to increase the talent pool.  But that is not really a revamping.  What do you suggest?

Pay whatever you need to to get Soraino off the team.

How would that improve the team?  How would burning $15M a year to get rid of him help the team?  I would rather the Cubs simply use him as he now should be used, as a PHer and 5th OFer, which would likely limit his plate appearances to 100-150 a year.  If, given those playing conditions, he wanted to relieve the Cubs of their contract obligations and go elsewhere, that would be wonderful.  If he retired, that would be great.  If he accepted the role in order to get the contract payments, so be it.


Pay Dempster to either void his player option or promise not to exercise it.  Ditto for A-Ram.  If both those guys did that we might actually be able to move them for some value.

Contract like these are the consequence of essentially trying to quickly build a strong team thru FA signings (or what amount to FA signings) when the team s*cks to start with.  It is the consequence of the moves nearly everyone here praised after the 2006 season.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1191 on: June 05, 2011, 02:26:15 pm »
That's like saying, "Other than this cancer ravaging my body, I'm enjoying the same robust health I always have.".

But even his other extra base hits are in line with where they should be.  He has rarely ever tripled, of course.  But he has 14 doubles, which puts him on pace for 40 this year...that would tie the second best total of his career.  Basically, his hitting problems come down to two things: not hitting with RISP (which is likely a fluke of a small sample size, given that he's always been good at it in the past) and lack of home run power (not power in general, just home run power).  His season would be right on track if he got hot for a week and hit about 4-5 homers.  Again, hasn't been that good...but he's far from deserving the level of criticism he's receiving.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1192 on: June 05, 2011, 02:35:00 pm »
I don't like the idea of trading Soto.  Yeah he's inconsistent and yeah he gets hurt.  Still it is tough enough to find quality catchers in this league just to trade one with Soto's upside away.  Think about all those years with guys like Hundley, Girardi, Bako, Servais, etc.

All the more reason to trade Soto, because very few catchers age well, particularly those who get injured often.  By the time the Cubs are worth a hoot, Soto is likely to have lost most if not all of his value, not just as a player for the Cubs, but any trade value (the two tend to be strongly related).

There are teams right now who consider themselves actual playoff contenders, and who have a need for a catcher.  The Giants are a good example.  Soto would have much greater value to the Giants than he does to the Cubs.  Exploit the difference in value and get some prospects.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1193 on: June 05, 2011, 04:42:46 pm »
stolen:

In the end, I don't feel sorry for us.  We can go fishing, shopping, or mow the lawn.  We can find a minor league team to follow or, gasp, temporarily follow our second choice whoever it might be.

I don't feel sorry for TR.  If he's such an oblivious dumba$$ as to think this is acceptable, let him lose money.

I don't feel sorry for the players.  IMO, some of them are trying too hard or not at all.  Some of them have run out of time.  All of them have contracts and will be paid regardless of how much they stink.

I feel sorry for all the people who rely on the Cubs for their livelihood and cannot control any of this.  Like the people who work at Wrigley, own rooftops, do concessions, and run businesses around Wrigleyville.  They can't do anything about the mess than Hendry has made and yet they will suffer the most.  TR's got bucks; the Ricketts family will survive huge losses, but some of the restaurants and businesses reliant on the Cubs are going to have bad years and hard times.  Even as far away as China or the Dominican where they make all those cute Cubbie things, they're going to feel the pinch, and they're the ones who can afford it least.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1194 on: June 05, 2011, 04:55:51 pm »
Jim Hendry, the Barack Obama of Major League Baseball.

No one is excepted from the misery he brings.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1195 on: June 05, 2011, 06:24:54 pm »
If Marmol can manage to avoid torpedoing his trade value before the end of the season, the first call Hendry (or whoever the GM is at that point) should make in the offseason is to see if the Mets would be interested in trading Wright in a deal built around Marmol.  Who knows, maybe they can even convince the Mets that Barney is for real and throw him in too.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1196 on: June 05, 2011, 06:28:13 pm »
So, you want to take one of the few holes on the team and make it another hole.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1197 on: June 05, 2011, 06:31:26 pm »
It's tough to be too mad at someone like Ramirez who is just getting older and just doesn't have the skills he used to have.

Isn't the same true with Soriano?

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1198 on: June 05, 2011, 06:33:23 pm »
I don't see any need to replace Wilken. During his regime, he's lost several draft picks due to all the free agent signings, and has recently suffered from severe budget limitations. Similarly, I have no beef about our Asian scouts. I'm more upset about our player development and  our underperforming veteran players with ridiculously long guaranteed contracts.

Cubsin, what's this bit about the severe budget limitations?  When has that been true, and who told you that?  2009 they didn't superslot much, so coming off the really good 2008 season they drafted late and mostly paid mostly slot, other than Raley and some limited overslots. 

But they spent plenty last year, and have usually had plenty to spend. 

It may be that Wilken is a liar, many such guys are.  But he claimed that Simpson was NOT a signability pick.  So it seems to me that he's consistently been provided at least an industry-normal budget and often far, far above that. 

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #1199 on: June 05, 2011, 06:33:53 pm »
If Marmol can manage to avoid torpedoing his trade value before the end of the season, the first call Hendry (or whoever the GM is at that point) should make in the offseason is to see if the Mets would be interested in trading Wright in a deal built around Marmol.  Who knows, maybe they can even convince the Mets that Barney is for real and throw him in too.

Why would the Mets want to devastate their team to acquire a CLOSER?