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craig

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #195 on: April 22, 2011, 10:06:27 am »
Correct, Jackson returned to action yesterday, was strong for three, then struggled I think for his last inning or two. 

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Clarkaddison

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #196 on: April 22, 2011, 11:27:01 am »
He's not ready.  Give him some time. 

If we'd done that with Samardzjia, he might be an effective pitcher today.
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JR

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #197 on: April 22, 2011, 03:47:45 pm »
Casey Coleman now has a 7.43 ERA, and James Russell now has an 8.00 ERA.

If the Cubs traded Gorzelanny because Ricketts was too cheap to find an extra $2 million to keep him, it almost has to make you question ownership's commitment to win at least a little bit.  And if it was made because Hendry thought those two junkballers were just as good, he made a really dumb decision. 

Either way, that trade doesn't reflect well on somebody in the Cubs organization.
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davep

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #198 on: April 22, 2011, 04:48:10 pm »
Gorzelanny has an ERA of 5.63.  It's not as if he was tearing up the AL.
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StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #199 on: April 22, 2011, 05:45:39 pm »
When did he pitch in the AL?
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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #200 on: April 22, 2011, 05:58:57 pm »
Fukudome has 14 hits and 9 walks this year...but somehow has only scored 1 run.  That sounds impossible.
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Tuffy

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #201 on: April 22, 2011, 06:16:08 pm »
If the Cubs lose tomorrow, their streak of never being more than one game from .500, and of always breaking even in the next game every time they stray one game up or down, will come to an end.

Their distinction of never having had either a winning or losing streak longer than two games will also be gone.  I don't think it's mathematically possible to always be within one game of .500 but never have a three-game streak of any kind.  Doing it would change your over/under-.500 balance by three, meaning that you'd have to be at least two over or under at some point.

So the Cubs really need to win tomorrow to keep all these oddities going.
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CurtOne

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #202 on: April 22, 2011, 06:25:55 pm »
Other boards have pointed out how well Fukudome, Castro, and Barney have been doing getting on base, yet the team doesn't score.  Of course we all know that the #3 batter doesn't matter so I'll drop it.
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JR

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #203 on: April 22, 2011, 08:47:29 pm »
Quote from: CurtOne on April 22, 2011, 06:25:55 pm
Other boards have pointed out how well Fukudome, Castro, and Barney have been doing getting on base, yet the team doesn't score.  Of course we all know that the #3 batter doesn't matter so I'll drop it.

Barney's getting to the point where he's not great at getting on base.  His OBP is now down to .338.
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davep

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #204 on: April 22, 2011, 08:51:43 pm »
Sorry - Washington Nats
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JR

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #205 on: April 22, 2011, 08:55:25 pm »
Quote from: davep on April 22, 2011, 04:48:10 pm
Gorzelanny has an ERA of 5.63.  It's not as if he was tearing up the AL.

Actually it's at 4.96.  Still not great, but a lot better than Coleman and Russell. 
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StrikeZone

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #206 on: April 22, 2011, 09:53:43 pm »
Quote from: davep on April 22, 2011, 08:51:43 pm
Sorry - Washington Nats

I really wasn't trying to be a smart guy, Dave.  I was honestly trying to figure out when Tom Gorzelanny pitched in the American League. 

Then I realized you were around when Washington was in the American League.
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JR

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #207 on: April 22, 2011, 09:55:19 pm »
Heck, DaveP was around when Washington was alive.
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Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #208 on: April 22, 2011, 10:02:21 pm »
Casey Coleman now has a 7.43 ERA, and James Russell now has an 8.00 ERA.  If the Cubs traded Gorzelanny because Ricketts was too cheap to find an extra $2 million to keep him, it almost has to make you question ownership's commitment to win at least a little bit.  And if it was made because Hendry thought those two junkballers were just as good, he made a really dumb decision. 

Not to pick on JR... but.... this is a prime example of  one of the reasons the Cubs generally suck.

Too many fans are unwilling to accept the growing pains which are generally associated with developing talent, particularly pitching.  While it is entirely possible neither Russell nor Coleman will ever be worth a damn, it is also entirely possible that one or both would be nice middle of the rotation starters for several years, several inexpensive years.  Gorz is never going to be an ace, is a good deal older than they are, and is not likely to be much better than expensive average.  Having him on the team and starting every 5th day might mean a few more wins this season, but the Cubs are not going anywhere this season anyway, and having him start this season simply further delays finding out whether Russell or Coleman can contribute in the future.

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Re: Cubs in '11
« Reply #209 on: April 22, 2011, 10:35:27 pm »
Ok, Jes.
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