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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 11:03:31 pm »
So the Cubs have an 8 man bullpen (that includes Shawn Camp and Carlos Marmol) and 4 man bench now?  Ugh, that's awful. 

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2013, 01:22:40 pm »
Chicago Cubs ‏@Cubs     1h
Check out the turn-of-the century uniforms for #Cubs vs. #Mariners in Seattle 6/29



I'll be there for the series. 

Doesn't anyone in the media remember there was a turn-of-the century not that many years ago?

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2013, 01:44:37 pm »
The Cubs haven't embraced the old uni trend like most other clubs.  The vast majority of their turn back the clock games has been as visitors. 

The White Sox doing it every Sunday has worn off the novelty, but if the Cubs did it once or twice a year at home, it could put more butts in the seats.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2013, 01:57:46 pm »
Carrie Muskat ‏@CarrieMuskat      13m
Hopefully, A's clean up stadium before #Cubs arrive July 2-4

Oakland A's owner on stadium: 'All a bunch of crap'

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/athletics/2013/06/17/oakland-athletics-sewage-lew-wolff-san-jose-bud-selig/2431019/

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2013, 08:45:54 am »
Rizzo's OPS in the last 30 games is something like .575 -- the good news is that his OPS in that span is more than 100 points higher than Castro's.




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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2013, 04:25:26 pm »
At this point, I have no idea what you do about Castro.  He's just a mess.  All I can think of is flipping him with Barney, having Castro learn a new position, and hope in a few years someone comes along and bumps Barney (Alcantara...whomever).  You would think someone with 200 hits as a 21 year old would not have an obp of about .280 several seasons later.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2013, 04:33:11 pm »
So whats the early verdict on the Rizzo for Cashner trade?  At this point, though I understood the move, I'm still not a fan.

Less specific (followed by specifics), the Theo era has sucked so far:

1. failed to move Garza when other starting pitchers were being dealt (at this point, the best value is probably to extend his contract)
2. castro has regressed to unbearable levels
3.  rizzo for cashner at this point looks, at best, a draw, but right now Rizzo is struggling and Cash is not
4. concepcion signing was 6 million wasted
5. Solar over Puig (nevermind Puig's ridiculous start, Soler went after another human being with a baseball bat.  That is dsm 5 material)
6. 100+ loss season
7. maybe another 100+ loss season
8. early returns on the edwin jackson signing (5+ era. theo's first big free agent investment w/ the cubs) are disturbing.

Thus far, it seems this group is getting a benefit of the doubt that I think others would not.  I'm trying to figure out why, b/c Epstein is in no way the sole reason Boston did well (for example, how are they doing today?).  A further example, they were lucky in being able to dump some of Theo's free agent mistakes onto L.A..

This team is such a mess.  Originally, I thought it was fixable by 2015.  Now, no way does that happen.  If they dealt Garza last year, I would have been more optimistic.  Now, I see 2016 as the best chance of not being embarrassed.
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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2013, 06:57:10 pm »
Not good news here.

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David DeJesus - OF - Cubs

Cubs manager Dale Sveum said Wednesday that he expects David DeJesus (shoulder) to miss about a month.

DeJesus on Monday was diagnosed with a right shoulder strain, an injury he suffered when he slammed into the center field fence last Friday. The Cubs will use Ryan Sweeney as their primary center fielder while DeJesus is out.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2013, 07:25:57 pm »
Not good news here.

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David DeJesus - OF - Cubs

Cubs manager Dale Sveum said Wednesday that he expects David DeJesus (shoulder) to miss about a month.

DeJesus on Monday was diagnosed with a right shoulder strain, an injury he suffered when he slammed into the center field fence last Friday. The Cubs will use Ryan Sweeney as their primary center fielder while DeJesus is out.
 

Look at the bright side -- an early draft pick in 2014, and a team so bad after this season it would be foolish to try to make major moves for serious improvement in 2014 (since those would almost have to be short term moves with long term costs) meaning another high level draft pick in 2015.

Of greater concern is the fact that Sveum not only seems unable to develop Castro, we are seeing real regression from both Castro and Rizzo, and those are guys the Cubs truly need to produce at high levels in the future for the team to amount to anything... and it is not looking good for that.
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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2013, 08:15:16 pm »
Nobody on the Cubs seems to be taking up for Castro on the Shane Robinson slide.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2013, 08:22:54 pm »
The slide was very obviously illegal.  Don't know if it was dirty or not...but it was definitely the right call by the umpire.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2013, 08:33:56 pm »
Cashner for Rizzo looks like a no doubt grand slam for the Cubs up until now... No idea how you construe it any other way.

Bitterman, you're living up to your name.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2013, 08:36:41 pm »
In fairness to the Padres, though, Cashner is pitching pretty well this year.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cashnan01.shtml

I doubt either side is too disappointed with how the trade has worked out so far.

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2013, 08:50:47 pm »
I'd make that trade over again 1000 times.

And we wont lose much with Sweeney in CF.

He's been one of the bright spots of the season.

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Re: Cubs in '13
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2013, 08:57:51 pm »
Since it was a trade between teams at the bottom of the league, short-term returns are pretty much meaningless.  I think you'd have to call it pretty close to a wash at this point - Rizzo has been up and down, and Cashner often hurt - but he's pitching very well for them this year.  I think he clearly has the bigger upside and the bigger risk.