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Dave23

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Cubs in '14
« on: January 15, 2014, 01:44:36 pm »
And the rebuild continues...

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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 01:57:21 pm »
In case you missed before the last "Cubs in" topic was shut down, the Cubs have signed Chris Coghlan to a minor league deal that is worth $800K if he makes the team (and has another $250K in incentives for PAs). 

I hope this isn't the last outfield acquisition.  Just one league average-ish outfielder would be a huge addition for this team. 

Dave23

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 02:08:17 pm »
Hotty Toddy!

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 03:24:06 pm »
Hot rumor is that he was signed to wear the Clark costume between innings.

AndyMacFAIL

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 04:24:46 pm »

Oops!

Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic (Washington DC area) 'mistakenly' showed Deadspin's full frontal nudity version of Clark the mascot in place of the official Cubs' one.

http://deadspin.com/comcast-sportsnet-airs-our-version-of-cubs-mascot-with-1501633812





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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 05:54:32 pm »
Boy, Passan really ripped the Cubs this morning.  Said his sources tell him Ricketts is adamant that he won't spend on payroll until the Cubs start winning, and the F.O. is very agitated that they're not getting even the infrastructure money they were promised when they signed on.  It's just more second-hand news, but Passan isn't exactly some internet hack - he's a pretty respected source himself.  What's most disquieting is the notion that this is being leaked intentionally by the F.O. in preparation for passing the blame.

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 06:10:09 pm »
Passan is a jerk.

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 06:11:01 pm »
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's wrong.

davep

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 06:26:25 pm »
Passan has never said anything good about Playtwo.

davep

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 06:26:41 pm »
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's wrong.

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 07:16:47 pm »
Here's Passan on Waddle & Slivy...it starts around 55:30 or so:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/chicago/play?id=10300042

davep

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 07:36:49 pm »
When I read Passan's article, it seemed to me that he was a little bit of an idiot.

I was wrong.

After hearing him on the Waddle show, I realize that he is a mammoth idiot.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 07:39:45 pm »
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I know this will come as a disappointment to a number of people here, but barring something unexpected Darwin Barney is going to be the opening day 2B for the Cubs.  They are going to give him a chance to redeem himself after his terrible offensive production last season.  Maybe he'll justify their confidence, or maybe he won't.  But for a while at least, everybody should get used to the idea of Barney as the regular 2B for at least a little longer.

While that is likely accurate, the "little longer" may be VERY little longer if Baez and Bryant both continue developing.

davep

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2014, 07:42:44 pm »
Assuming the Cubs do not sign a free agent or trade for a second baseman, it seems quite likely that Barney will start the season as the Cubs second baseman.  But if he goes into June with the 208 (or whatever) average that he had last year, it is almost certain he will be replaced, whether Baez or Bryant continue to develop or not.

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Re: Cubs in '14
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 08:05:57 pm »
I decided to listen to the Passan interview, to listen to Passan's claims, carefully but with an open mind. The first thing he said (after making silly statements about the importance of the Clark-the-mascot topic) was to say that he doesn't believe that Theo has been given the resources to work on things like "research and development" and "other sorts of budgets that involve baseball operations."  That strikes me as flying in the face of everything I have read and heard.  Either he knows something no one else seems to or else he's so far off base that everything else he says on this subject should be dismissed out of hand. 

When asked if he believed that Theo had no idea when he was hired that the Cubs would be operating under the financial restrictions they currently have, what he said, in essence, was that they were aware that the nature of the purchase of team (the debt structure) provided limitations, but that "I think they expected more."  This seems to me consistent with the explanations that Ricketts and Theo have themselves given - that the revenue changes they planned have taken longer to get off the ground than expected (due to the multiple layers of decisions, slowed down by rooftop owners, within city government). 

He then said Cub fans should have been aware of this because Gordon Wittenmyer had been writing about it. In fact, he said that Wittenmyer is the guy who got him started on this issue.  In my view, that's a far cry from bolstering the credibility of Passan's views - I find Wittenmyer to be a sensationalist whiner.

When asked if Theo could still "find light at the end of the tunnel" even if it takes a little longer?  He said, "Look, the plan can always change, that's the danger of writing that two years down the road the Cubs are going to be a disaster."  Then he mentioned the Rangers as an example, saying a couple of years ago they "thought they were done spending" but then Yu Darvish came along and changed things.  So, basically, if and when the Cubs do what Ricketts and Theo have said they are going to do, Passan will just say, "Oh, they changed their plan."

It seems to me that there were two key things that Passan said.  One is that Theo has been denied the resources he expected for baseball operations in general (including research and development) NOT JUST FREE AGENTS. The second is that Ricketts doesn't plan on spending money until the Cubs start winning (whatever that standard that involves).  The first appears to be baloney, based on the ton of resources that have demonstrably been put into baseball operations.  The second is something that only Passan claims to know to be true, as far as I can tell.

I admit that I was dubious about Passan's claims before listening to this interview, nothing he said caused me to take him seriously on this.
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