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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4920 on: August 02, 2015, 11:38:17 am »
MLB Trade Rumors says that the Cubs have DFA'd Yoervis Medina. 

I guess this settles any continuing questions people had about Welington Castillo's trade value in the offseason.  The Cubs ultimately traded him for a guy who they don't feel is worth a 40 man roster spot a couple months later.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4921 on: August 02, 2015, 11:52:43 am »
He was framed!

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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4922 on: August 02, 2015, 11:53:41 am »
Trading for Montero and then signing Ross didn't do a helluvalot for his value either.

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« Reply #4923 on: August 02, 2015, 12:08:11 pm »
MLB Trade Rumors says that the Cubs have DFA'd Yoervis Medina. 

I guess this settles any continuing questions people had about Welington Castillo's trade value in the offseason.  The Cubs ultimately traded him for a guy who they don't feel is worth a 40 man roster spot a couple months later.

Medina has to go through optional assignment revocable waivers to get him to Iowa on an option. Likely that he gets to Iowa if/when not claimed.

Ditto for Richard after today's game.

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« Reply #4924 on: August 02, 2015, 12:14:41 pm »
What does Schlitter have to do to get DFA'd? 

I think this off season is going to be really interesting. The Cubs need 1 SP, bullpen, a right handed OF platoon guy and solve the Castro question.

The SP they could go expensive and being in Price and they would have a rotation that competes with the Dodgers. They could trade for a cost controlled younger guy or sign a Hammel type starter and still have a really good rotation. The last option would be a inning eater for the 5th spot. That rotation is still likely one of the better rotations in baseball.

The bullpen has Rondon, Strop, Grimm and likely Wood. Hunter would be an improvement of Motte if they can bring him back. One of the articles mentioned his mother lives in Indianapolis and has cancer so he might be interested in sticking around. Edwards, Turner and Johnson could all be in mix for 6th starter/long guy. Ramirez if healthy makes the bullpen really tough. A power lefty would really complete the pen, too bad they let that kid go to the Braves in the Rule 5 draft.

Zobrist makes a ton of sense as the right handed platoon guy, insurance at second and height even be able to play CF in Wrigley. At center Fowler on a short term deal would be ideal, but he might rebound enough to get a long term contract. How Castro is handled will be really interesting. Does he rebound enough to get some trade value?  Is he just a salary dump?  Dos they keep him around and hope for a rebound in Chicago?

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« Reply #4925 on: August 02, 2015, 12:17:48 pm »
I understood Cubsin's post as suggesting that they could not have signed Shields in the off-season for an amount that would have fit into the budget that the beat writers are claiming for the Cubs.

I guess I don't really understand why the Cubs would inform beat writers what their actual top end budget is, unless they are content for other teams to know that as well. My assumption is that the writers themselves were operating on assumptions, and there is always a herd instinct on this sort of thing among reporters. Assumptions become "facts."

In any event, even if their official budget was a certain amount, that does not preclude them getting extra money from ownership for the right deal(s) given their potential to reach the playoffs. I would be surprised if they were hamstrung by budgetary limits (although they would obviously place limits on what they considered to be individual players are worth to them).

Except that no beat writers claimed Cubs couldn't fit Shields into off-season budget. Everybody was talking about trading deadline period.

Guess just a coincidence that Cubs spent almost exactly what some beat writers said they could add and that just about every rumored player could fit also. $ 5 prorated to 1/3 of season is not hamstringing anybody. That's $15 in signed salaries, as 2/3 of season has elapsed.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4926 on: August 02, 2015, 12:22:28 pm »
Cubs Twitter guy thinks Medina was just optioned not DFA'd.

Gordo thinks Montero will be activated this week, so it will be interesting to see where Schwarber plays when that happens and if he is in LF does Coghlan move to the bench, 2B, RF?

Edit: Muskat says Thursday will be when Montero is activated.
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« Reply #4927 on: August 02, 2015, 01:43:35 pm »
If Coghlan could sub around a little, that would be amazing.

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« Reply #4928 on: August 02, 2015, 06:27:19 pm »
Cubs Twitter guy thinks Medina was just optioned not DFA'd.


AZ Phll says Medina has to go thru optional assignment waivers first. Go argue with him. Possible has already passed thru waivers, but don't think 72 hours have passed yet.

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« Reply #4929 on: August 02, 2015, 06:53:54 pm »
I have no clue, I was just passing along what the Cubs Twitter account said. ArizonaPhil can go argue with the blue check mark. I don't always look for an argument.
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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4930 on: August 02, 2015, 06:55:35 pm »
MLB Trade Rumors says that the Cubs have DFA'd Yoervis Medina. 

I guess this settles any continuing questions people had about Welington Castillo's trade value in the offseason.  The Cubs ultimately traded him for a guy who they don't feel is worth a 40 man roster spot a couple months later.

What the Cubs do now with a player they got in trade for Castillo does very little to indicate what the Cubs thought of Castillo's trade value eight months ago.  It may say a good deal about what the front office now thinks about Medina, but not much about what it thought of either Castillo or Medina during the offseason.

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« Reply #4931 on: August 02, 2015, 08:02:18 pm »
I have no clue, I was just passing along what the Cubs Twitter account said. ArizonaPhil can go argue with the blue check mark. I don't always look for an argument.

Below is Phil's detailed explanation about Medina.

As to Teagarden, he is out of options. So, if unclaimed, will be outrighted--if gives permission for an outright. Will be off 40-man.


Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Sat, 08/01/2015 - 9:04pm Permalink
RHRP Yoervis Medina was Designated for Assignment to make room on the Cubs 25-man roster for Tommy Hunter. (Hunter takes Junior Lake's slot on the 40-man roster).

Optional Assignment Waivers must be secured before Medina can be optioned to the minors, and although Optional Assignment Waivers had been secured in the previous waiver period (and once secured, the waivers were good for the entire waiver period), that waiver period ended yesterday at 4 PM (Eastern), and therefore the waivers have expired. So now the Cubs will need to run Medina through Optional Assignment Waivers in the new waiver period (and that takes two days) before he can be optioned to the minors.

The key to making this procedural move is that because the Cubs MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) was full when Medina was Designated for Assignment, another player cannot replace Medina on the 40-man roster while he is Designated for Assignment (or else he cannot be returned to the 40-man roster and be optioned to the minors). So expect the Cubs to go with a 39-man Reserve List until Optional Assignment Waivers are secured, and then Medina will be returned to the Cubs MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) and can be optioned to Iowa (probably on Monday or Tuesday).

BTW, that is NOT the case with RHRP Ben Rowen, who was Designated for Asignment to make room on the Cubs MLB 40-man roster for Dan Haren. So because Rowen was replaced on the 40-man roster by another player after he was Designated for Assignment, he cannot be optioned to the minors. He must be either sent outright to the minors, traded, or released.


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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4932 on: August 02, 2015, 08:28:50 pm »
Castro showed the whole defensive package this series.

Fantastic play to his right, in the hole, the other day; fantastic play to his left today; and boots routine grounder right at him 2 outs in the 9th. Strong arm and can make all the plays at the position. 

A mystery on defense..........and now a mystery on offense.

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Re: Cubs in '15 (09/14 - 08/15)
« Reply #4933 on: August 02, 2015, 08:45:42 pm »
Where is Arizona Phil writing since the Cubs reporter went under?

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« Reply #4934 on: August 02, 2015, 09:15:46 pm »
What does Schlitter have to do to get DFA'd? 

I think this off season is going to be really interesting. The Cubs need 1 SP, bullpen, a right handed OF platoon guy and solve the Castro question.

The SP they could go expensive and being in Price and they would have a rotation that competes with the Dodgers. They could trade for a cost controlled younger guy or sign a Hammel type starter and still have a really good rotation. The last option would be a inning eater for the 5th spot. That rotation is still likely one of the better rotations in baseball.

The bullpen has Rondon, Strop, Grimm and likely Wood. Hunter would be an improvement of Motte if they can bring him back. One of the articles mentioned his mother lives in Indianapolis and has cancer so he might be interested in sticking around. Edwards, Turner and Johnson could all be in mix for 6th starter/long guy. Ramirez if healthy makes the bullpen really tough. A power lefty would really complete the pen, too bad they let that kid go to the Braves in the Rule 5 draft.

Zobrist makes a ton of sense as the right handed platoon guy, insurance at second and height even be able to play CF in Wrigley. At center Fowler on a short term deal would be ideal, but he might rebound enough to get a long term contract. How Castro is handled will be really interesting. Does he rebound enough to get some trade value?  Is he just a salary dump?  Dos they keep him around and hope for a rebound in Chicago?

To get a Ross/Carrasco type guy, think will need really good showing by Baez going forward or a very significant uptick from Castro. Will need a valuable SS to shop for a guy like that.

Think possible could move both in off-season and fill 2B with either FAs Kendrick or Zobrist. Think that's quite possible to balance out all the kids in lineup.

Qualifying offer to FA might be over $16 ($15.3 last off-season). Hard to see Fowler getting that offer or otherwise signing short deal, unless he plays poorly rest of way in which case Cubs probably don't want him.

Would expect Russell to move up in the lineup, so think CF could be filled by a #9 hitting, premier defensive CF, such as.............Ender Inciarte, who is playing out of position in corner/leadoff spots with DBacks. Won't get him for Alcantara anymore, unfortunately.

Lineup: Zobrist (2B), Schwarber (LF), Bryant, Rizzo, Soler, Russell, Montero, Pitcher, Inciarte. Move Coghlan around, with starts in games that Schwarber catches and some in RF against some tough righties.

Let's get McGee for the tough lefty pen role and Carrasco for rotation.