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CUBluejays

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #120 on: October 30, 2017, 04:02:52 pm »
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #121 on: October 30, 2017, 04:05:55 pm »
How many innings for each? Walk rate?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #122 on: October 30, 2017, 04:10:26 pm »
Pitcher             IP    BB
one                202   68
two                201   51

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #123 on: October 30, 2017, 04:19:15 pm »
Stroman is pitcher 2 and I think pitcher 1 is Archer, but some of his numbers are wrong.  I like Archer more than Stroman, but both are nice. 
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #124 on: October 30, 2017, 04:25:03 pm »
No. 1 is Archer, but what numbers are wrong?  #2 is not Stroman

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #125 on: October 30, 2017, 04:26:15 pm »
Pitcher #2, believe it or not, is Lackey.  I don't see Archer's allure.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #126 on: October 30, 2017, 04:32:00 pm »
On what planet did Lackey have a 3.31 ERA this year?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #127 on: October 30, 2017, 04:36:37 pm »
10-12, 60 BB, 249 K, 4.07 ERA, 201 IP

I'm at a loss on pitcher 2 then, he's the only one with 201 IP and 13-9 this year.


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #128 on: October 30, 2017, 04:39:02 pm »
On what planet did Lackey have a 3.31 ERA this year?
10-12, 60 BB, 249 K, 4.07 ERA, 201 IP

I'm at a loss on pitcher 2 then, he's the only one with 201 IP and 13-9 this year.


I see what I did.  Those are three year averages.  Sorry.  But still...

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #129 on: October 30, 2017, 04:43:40 pm »
Pitcher #2, believe it or not, is Lackey.  I don't see Archer's allure.

Archer is owed $6.4, $7.666, $9, $11 million over then next 4 years.  His luxury tax salary number is $4.25 million/year to go with Quintana's $4.2 million.  That helps with signing the core and maybe adding a Bryce Harper.

Beyond that he strikes out a lot people and doesn't walk many.  Chris Archer is amazing.

PS: Lackey was a good pitcher until he turned 38 and Archer is going to be 29 for almost all of next year.




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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #130 on: October 30, 2017, 05:30:52 pm »
His salary numbers alone make him too expensive  (talent-wise) for the Cubs to acquire him.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #131 on: October 30, 2017, 05:32:39 pm »
I don't see any universe in which a 29 year-old Archer and a 38 year-old Lackey are remotely comparable, or where 3-year averages are a good way to measure a 38 year-old pitcher's projectability.  Archer is a very good pitcher, probably a legit #2, and Lackey is pretty much done.

But that's not the issue.  The issue is cost, and Archer - as a very good pitcher and cheap, is somebody the Rays would have to be blown away by an offer to deal.  I don't think that's in the best interests of the Cubs.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #132 on: October 30, 2017, 05:38:09 pm »
It's a shame Kikuchi Yusei won't be posted until after next season at the earliest, because as a pitcher he may end up being just as good in MLB as Otani.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #133 on: October 30, 2017, 05:46:39 pm »
Will the team not post him or he doesn’t want to come over?  A 26 year lefty that hits 98 would make a lot of money this year, but he might get lost in next years class.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #134 on: October 30, 2017, 06:19:12 pm »
Will the team not post him or he doesn’t want to come over?  A 26 year lefty that hits 98 would make a lot of money this year, but he might get lost in next years class.

Every report I've seen is that Seibu isn't likely to post him until after the 2018 season at the earliest.  It is a strong FA class, but he's an elite talent - he'll draw plenty of interest.  As far as the club is concerned all that matters is that they get the max posting fee, which is a lock.