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davep

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #255 on: November 08, 2017, 05:33:26 pm »
So we agree.  That is refreshing, since you are so seldom right that it is not often I get to say that.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #256 on: November 08, 2017, 07:24:34 pm »
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #257 on: November 09, 2017, 09:59:23 am »
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craig

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« Reply #258 on: November 09, 2017, 11:04:51 am »
He was renteria's bench coach, is that correct? 

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« Reply #259 on: November 09, 2017, 11:57:36 am »
He was renteria's bench coach, is that correct? 

That is my recollection.

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« Reply #260 on: November 09, 2017, 01:16:22 pm »
Yes he was Renteria's bench coach and previously was the bench coach for the Marlins as well.  I think he started out in the front office with the Cubs, but moved back into coaching.  A lot of the Cubs minor league instructors at one time had times to him as well.

http://www.cubsinsider.com/2017/11/09/notes-jed-hoyers-discussion-cubs-offseason-strategy-spiegel-parkins/

brjones

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« Reply #261 on: November 09, 2017, 07:52:53 pm »
Jon Heyman released his top 80 free agents today with predictions by both him and an "expert," who is apparently pretty good at predicting contracts.  Here is the full article:

https://www.fanragsports.com/inside-baseball-how-much-will-the-top-80-free-agents-get/

The relief market looks good and affordable, no reason to go after Davis:

Wade Davis: Expert: 4/$64; Heyman: 4/$72
Addison Reed: Expert: 4/$35; Heyman: 3/$27
Jake McGee: Expert: 2/$15; Heyman: 2/$12
Bryan Shaw: Expert: 2/$12; Heyman: 3/$24
Juan Nicasio: Expert: 2/$14; Heyman: 2/$12
Anthony Swarzak: Expert: 4/$28; Heyman: 3/$21
Brandon Morrow: Expert: 3/$23; Heyman: 3/$24

Lots of options, and this doesn't even include guys like Neshek, Minor, and Watson.  If those prices are fairly accurate, I'd love to see the Cubs get McGee, Reed, and either Shaw or Nicasio for a total of about $21 million per year.  In fact, at those prices, I'd be disappointed if the Cubs didn't end up with at least McGee and Shaw/Nicasio.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #262 on: November 09, 2017, 07:57:10 pm »
If they are close on Cobb’s market then a big no for me.

McGee, Shaw and Nicasio would be my choices at those prices/years. I like the idea of Reed, but he scares me.

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« Reply #263 on: November 09, 2017, 07:59:43 pm »
At those prices, I don't think there's really a wrong solution as long as they stay away from Davis and Holland.  I'd be perfectly fine with going into Spring Training with 2-3 of McGee, Shaw, Nicasio, and Reed plus Wilson in a battle for the closer job.

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« Reply #264 on: November 09, 2017, 08:05:58 pm »
Also, I wouldn't hate Cobb at Heyman's price (4 years, $58 million).  But the expert's 5/$75 would be awful--might as well pay the extra money for Darvish and fill the 5th spot very cheap if you're going to commit that much to Cobb.

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« Reply #265 on: November 09, 2017, 08:29:53 pm »
You have the expert and Heyman reversed.

 I really wouldn’t want to pay Cobb that much at either price to be honest, he needs to be under $50 million for me to like it.

 Chacin/Chatwood would be more interesting to me especially if you could get both. Tillman/Mikolas/Miley would all be sorta gambles for 5/6th starters. Put me down for a 2 year Pineda contract too.

Mike Minor is another interesting lefty, but the 2 TJS are scary.

Drew Hutchison on a minor league deals too, and maybe Jared Cosart.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #266 on: November 09, 2017, 10:09:08 pm »
I would go for Cobb at 4 / 58, although under 50 would be obviously much better.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #267 on: November 09, 2017, 10:13:28 pm »
Maybe I’m crazy, but I could see someone paying $100 million for Cobb.  Quality pitching is tough to find especially in free agency.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #268 on: November 09, 2017, 10:54:24 pm »
Maybe?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #269 on: November 09, 2017, 11:08:16 pm »
Just from listening to Hoyer on the radio, it sure sounds like the Cubs want to keep money available for 2018 FA. I think they’ll go cheap and look more for Charlie Morton 2.0.