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craig

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #855 on: December 12, 2017, 08:46:59 pm »
Got it.  So mostly paying to rehab him for 2019.


brjones

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« Reply #856 on: December 12, 2017, 08:48:24 pm »
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Smyly deal is $3 million guaranteed in year one, $7 million in year two. Up to $6 million more in incentives in 2019 if he's a starter, $1 million if he's a reliever. Potential for $16 million total.

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« Reply #857 on: December 12, 2017, 08:50:04 pm »
For luxury tax purposes it is $5 million AAV.  I’m not sure how the incentives are figured in.

Rehab from TJS can be anywhere from 12-18 months, so it isn’t impossible for Smyly to pitch next year.
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craig

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #858 on: December 12, 2017, 09:11:03 pm »
When Hoyer said he thought they'd have another deal before leaving, I had assumed it would be something of more immediate significance than a Buildican 2019 take-a-shot. 

Maybe this isn't what he meant, and he's got another one coming this week. 

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #859 on: December 12, 2017, 09:32:57 pm »
Very disappointing if they are punting the bullpen in favor of an injured HR factory.
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« Reply #860 on: December 12, 2017, 09:36:50 pm »
I dont see any way they're even considering "punting the bullpen".

craig

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« Reply #861 on: December 12, 2017, 10:01:57 pm »
I hadn't even realized that our closer was 0-5 with a 7.20 ERA this year, in Triple-A.   

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #862 on: December 12, 2017, 10:21:05 pm »
Anyone know if Smyly and Keuchel have any connection/friendship still from days at Arkansas?

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« Reply #863 on: December 12, 2017, 10:22:36 pm »
It appears they are.  Smyly gonna recruit Keuchel next year?

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« Reply #864 on: December 12, 2017, 11:13:37 pm »
Smyly 2 year $10 million + $7 million in incentives according to Rosenthal.

Gausman sucks with the Orioles, which doesn’t mean much.

I love contracts that are very heavy on incentives.  It is hard for a team to go wrong with them, and players with considerable upside can still sign and perform with the confidence they will be paid well for doing better than expected.



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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #866 on: December 13, 2017, 09:52:22 am »
From ESPN Winter Meetings:

It was a little bit of a throwaway line but this quote from Theo Epstein underscores what the team still thinks of Kyle Schwarber and/or his trade value: "He's always been someone teams have had interest in, I guess, but we probably have the most interest."

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #867 on: December 13, 2017, 10:22:34 am »
I can totally see the appeal of Salazar from the Cubs' POV.  Obvious risk factor there, but when the guy is on he has "Game 1 starter" stuff, which they desperately need in this rotation.  Maybe a guy who would benefit from a 6-man rotation.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #868 on: December 13, 2017, 10:33:40 am »
I think the 6 man rotation was only happening if they got Ohtani.

craig

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #869 on: December 13, 2017, 10:38:26 am »
How soon can you trade your draft picks under the new CBA?  Theo can trade all of last year's picks right now, right? 

Maybe he figures he can just package his 2016 and 2017 draft classes for a July relief rental? 

But the 2018 class, does he need to wait until winter or until 2019?  Or can he start adding them into deals for relief rentals this summer, as soon as he signs them?