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Deeg

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« Reply #870 on: December 13, 2017, 11:57:26 am »
I think the 6 man rotation was only happening if they got Ohtani.

There were reports the Cubs had been toying with the idea generally speaking.  Who knows if that's true.

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« Reply #871 on: December 13, 2017, 12:04:46 pm »
How soon can you trade your draft picks under the new CBA?  Theo can trade all of last year's picks right now, right? 

Maybe he figures he can just package his 2016 and 2017 draft classes for a July relief rental? 

But the 2018 class, does he need to wait until winter or until 2019?  Or can he start adding them into deals for relief rentals this summer, as soon as he signs them? 

Not till after the WS.

Salazar as far as I can tell has thrown 150 IP in 2 seasons in his career and in the Indians last 2 playoff appearances he was thrown 4.2 innings in relief.  Great stuff or not the injury risk is a huge negative.
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Deeg

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« Reply #872 on: December 13, 2017, 12:34:11 pm »
That's why the trade cost may be just manageable.  Or not, but it's worth at least considering.

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« Reply #873 on: December 13, 2017, 01:10:16 pm »
Bruce Levine thinks Wade Davis is going to have to settle for a 3 year (or maybe even 2 year + option) deal.  At that contract length, the Cubs should probably be interested.


http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/12/13/levine-on-the-score-i-would-encourage-people-to-keep-their-eyes-on-davis-and-the-cubs/

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« Reply #874 on: December 13, 2017, 01:13:44 pm »
We've lost Davis,Duensing,and Rondon from a weak bullpen and replaced him but Morrow.

We better be interested.

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« Reply #875 on: December 13, 2017, 01:17:28 pm »
@BleacherNation
I'm seeing enough in the reports, and hearing enough on my end, to say that the Cubs are sincere in their inquiries about starting pitching trades. It's interesting, given Cobb's continued presence on the free agent market.
There are tons of plausible explanations (Cobb demand still deemed too high; Cubs not actually serious on Cobb; Cubs prefer trade targets; Cubs want six quality starters; etc.), and I can't tell you which one(s) are correct. I just believe the trade stuff is no pure smoke screen.



Davis getting a 2-3 year deal doesn't seem to fit with this reliever market.  If it is then the Cubs should lock him up ASAP.

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« Reply #876 on: December 13, 2017, 02:02:14 pm »
No more than 2 years for Davis.  He's pretty clearly on the decline.

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« Reply #877 on: December 13, 2017, 03:54:14 pm »
Starting to sound like this Montgomery thing could get a bit ugly.

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« Reply #878 on: December 13, 2017, 04:34:45 pm »

Deeg

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« Reply #879 on: December 13, 2017, 05:23:15 pm »
Getting very worried about the bullpen.  We needed volume of good relievers and the options are mostly off the board.

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« Reply #880 on: December 13, 2017, 06:31:03 pm »
There were reports the Cubs had been toying with the idea generally speaking.  Who knows if that's true.

It seems pretty clear that the Cubs think that keeping their starting pitchers fresh for the postseason is important.  This past year, the top starters pitched very little in spring training.  That may have helped their performance in October, but we all saw the decreased velocity and effectiveness in the first half.  Impossible to say for sure that there's a direct cause-and-effect relationship there, but it seems to make sense.

I wonder if they'll experiment with some sort of modified six-man rotation this season.  Prepare via spring training in the traditional way so they're ready to hit the ground running at full strength.  But maybe fold in a sixth starter every other time through the rotation.  Something like that.

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« Reply #881 on: December 13, 2017, 06:34:12 pm »
Getting very worried about the bullpen.  We needed volume of good relievers and the options are mostly off the board.

Agreed.  I can just hear Theo expressing his frustration at the market cost of relief pitching.

Bite the bullet and sign both Reed and Davis.

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« Reply #882 on: December 13, 2017, 06:56:37 pm »
If you get Davis back I’d much rather get a lefty.

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« Reply #883 on: December 13, 2017, 07:01:02 pm »
Get the better pitcher, period.
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« Reply #884 on: December 13, 2017, 07:14:30 pm »
Get the better pitcher, period.

yes, yes, yes.