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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1035 on: December 18, 2017, 04:56:46 pm »
Craig, indeed Darvish carries no compensation pick penalty.  Just money.

Even if taking on Darvish and Prado would push the Cubs over the tax threshold now, there are creative ways to get around that next winter.  Just watch how the Yankees and Dodgers do business.
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« Reply #1036 on: December 18, 2017, 06:09:56 pm »
I don’t think the Yankees are an example for the Cubs. They have waited years for big $ vets to fall off their payroll. The Dodgers sent a bunch of 1 year bad deals for a bad deal spread over 2 years. The Cubs only bad deal is Heyward and that still has multiple years.

If you trade for Yelich you do it players/prospects, not taking on bad money.
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« Reply #1037 on: December 18, 2017, 09:46:53 pm »
Yu Darvish apparently tweeted something about meeting with the Cubs in Japanese. Bing translate isn’t great, but it appears to have went well.
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« Reply #1038 on: December 18, 2017, 09:51:17 pm »
Twitter's attempts to translate Darvish's tweets:

1. so today was also reported to have cubs were meeting.
It was a very good meeting. Interpretation, to want to take the next step English 3 and half hours has been meeting ^_^ from the talk at first unfamiliar + strain to utter a word but makutta impatience from the middle was.

2. I'm tired me so I just had a question / remark there, pretty much with the brain in the past 10 years the most tired. Also tomorrow I English (^^) still be scared quicker progress after challenging withdraw no more!. The gutter to the Dodgers was (^^)

https://twitter.com/farid...status/942960388743876608

https://twitter.com/farid...status/942960981008887808
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« Reply #1039 on: December 18, 2017, 09:54:53 pm »
Cubs Insider has a translation. The meeting went extremely well and Darvish did the 3.5 hour meeting without a translator. He had some trouble at first with English, but then did well with it.
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« Reply #1040 on: December 18, 2017, 09:58:54 pm »
What does "The gutter to the Dodgers was (^^)" mean?  Is (^^) some kind of substitute for an emoji?  Is it positive or negative?  Does "gutter" mean trade?  It sounds like he's working without a translator again tomorrow...is that while talking with the Dodgers? Or the Cubs again? 
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« Reply #1041 on: December 18, 2017, 09:59:57 pm »
We're gonna sign him.

I bet Jake loves knowing we believe in Darvish and not him.

I hope he's healthy and I hope we dont use all of our bullpen money.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1042 on: December 18, 2017, 10:02:09 pm »
Quote from: brjones on December 18, 2017, 09:58:54 pm
What does "The gutter to the Dodgers was (^^)" mean?  Is (^^) some kind of substitute for an emoji?  Is it positive or negative?  Does "gutter" mean trade?  It sounds like he's working without a translator again tomorrow...is that while talking with the Dodgers? Or the Cubs again? 

Nothing on the second tweet.
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brjones

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« Reply #1043 on: December 18, 2017, 10:02:20 pm »
Interpretation of the second tweet:

Dylan Hernandez @dylanohernandez
Darvish on speaking English in meeting with Cubs: "You develop faster if you challenge yourself instead of freaking out and cowering. I realized that when I went to the Dodgers."

Quote from: DUSTY on December 18, 2017, 09:59:57 pm
I bet Jake loves knowing we believe in Darvish and not him.

There's good reason to believe in Darvish over Arrieta.  Jake has lost a couple mph the last couple of years; Darvish threw as hard as ever this year.
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« Reply #1044 on: December 18, 2017, 10:09:28 pm »
Yu is only half-Japanese, and he has some personality aspects that seem quite un-Japanese - maybe a coincidence.  But this business about not using an interpreter is very, very unusual even among Japanese who understand English well. 

People will laugh that off as trivia, but it's not.  He took this very seriously indeed.
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« Reply #1045 on: December 18, 2017, 10:10:41 pm »
Darvish on speaking English in meeting with Cubs: "You develop faster if you challenge yourself instead of freaking out and cowering. I realized that when I went to the Dodgers."
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« Reply #1046 on: December 18, 2017, 10:17:42 pm »
Free agents don't normally tweet about talking to specific teams before they sign.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1047 on: December 18, 2017, 10:27:00 pm »
Where there’s smoke...

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Deeg

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« Reply #1048 on: December 18, 2017, 10:27:53 pm »
My guess is we sign Darvish, probably five years, probably something like $125 million with a substantial back-load. I hope so, as I think that'd be a great score for the Cubs - absolutely could be wrong, but this whole exchange feels like it has serious weight to it.  And Darvish has always been strikingly open about his intentions as an athlete - if there's a widespread perception here and in Japan that he's linked with the Cubs, it's because he wants there to be.
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« Reply #1049 on: December 18, 2017, 10:43:13 pm »
Nothing is signed yet, but as others have mentioned, we almost never hear of Theo & Co’s specific moves as they unfold, and it’s very rare for a player to telegraph so publicly his positive meeting with a suitor team. Sure feels like this could happen...

If you had told me at the start of the offseason that the Cubs would sign Darvish, Chatwood, Morrow, and Smyly, I’d have said no way. You could have substituted Cobb for Darvish and I’d have been thrilled with that list. But a rotation of Darvish, Lester, Quintana, Hendricks, Chatwood... wow.
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