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Playtwo

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1245 on: January 03, 2018, 01:31:52 pm »
No, just my offer.

Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1246 on: January 03, 2018, 01:32:20 pm »

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CUBluejays

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1248 on: January 03, 2018, 04:34:10 pm »
https://www.cubsinsider.com/2018/01/03/levine-cubs-cards-compete-arrieta-closer-yelich-cain-real-possibilities-well/

Interesting read.  Here is the Yelich/Cain stuff.

“I think they really need a center fielder. I don’t believe that Joe (Maddon) believes that (Albert) Almora is an everyday center fielder. He’s a good outfielder, he’s a good hitter against left-handers, but he didn’t have quite enough at-bats against right-handers and I don’t think Joe trust him against right handers. Can he get better? I don’t know, but I just believe that they’re gonna trade for either a guy like (Christian) Yelich or sign a free agent like (Lorenzo) Cain."

That is a quote from Levine.  It sounds a lot more like what Levine thinks they should do vs what he is hearing, at least to me.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1249 on: January 03, 2018, 05:46:18 pm »
That is a quote from Levine.  It sounds a lot more like what Levine thinks they should do vs what he is hearing, at least to me.

I think it's some of both. Yesterday's article sounded like there was some speculation on Levine's part too. But I would guess he's not just making up the idea that Maddon doesn't really trust Almora. He may not be the best beat reporter, but he's not in the business of spreading fake rumors. So maybe the "the Cubs should trade for Yelich or sign Cain" is more his opinion, while "Maddon isn't really excited about Almora and the Cubs could try to do something about it" was something he heard from a source.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1250 on: January 03, 2018, 06:10:21 pm »
... while "Maddon isn't really excited about Almora and the Cubs could try to do something about it" was something he heard from a source.


Or something he simply concluded from observation, as some also have here.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1251 on: January 03, 2018, 06:39:14 pm »
This guy could be a sleeper:

http://www.bleachernation.com/2018/01/03/cubs-sign-right-hander-ryan-weber-to-a-minor-league-deal/



Easy to like signings like this, since they cost almost nothing compared to the total payroll.

The guy has parts of three seasons in AAA, for a total of 167 innings there, with an ERA of 1.16 and a WHIP of 1.030, and a walk rat of 1.5/9.

For a team which supposedly is going to be more concerned with pitchers who throw strikes in 2018, I think there is a very good chance we will see some of him in Wrigley.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1252 on: January 03, 2018, 06:46:22 pm »
Dylan Floro with a slower fastball.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1253 on: January 03, 2018, 07:19:32 pm »
Dylan Floro with a slower fastball.

In parts of three seasons in AAA, for a total of 167 innings there, Ryan has an ERA of 1.16 and a WHIP of 1.030, and a walk rate of 1.5/9  In 2017 his AAA ERA was  0.85 in 32 innings with a WHIP of .758.

In parts of three seasons in AAA, Floro threw 243 innings for an ERA of 4.38 and a WHIP of 1.343, and a walk rate of 1.5/9.

???????

I think you may be giving a bit too much emphasis on those identical walk rates when you draw that comparison.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1254 on: January 03, 2018, 07:47:38 pm »
Floro 5.11 ERA, 17.1% K%, 6% BB% in the majors
Weber 5.00 ERA, 12.4% K%, 6.1 BB% in the majors

In AAA 2015 Weber had a 86.8% LOB% and a .234 BABIP, 2016 a 2.3% HR/FB, 2017 93.2% LOB% with a .207 BABIP underlying those ERA and WHIPs.  If he could translate that the majors he might have a chance.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1255 on: January 03, 2018, 08:27:21 pm »
Floro has a MLB WHIP of 1.824; Weber 1.244.

But with Floro we are taking about a total of 25 innings and with Weber only 68.

Forgive me for thinking the significantly larger AAA samples are more meaningful.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1256 on: January 03, 2018, 08:37:03 pm »
Both of these guys are ham-n-eggers with a slight chance to be meaningful MLB contributors.  Their chance depends much more on their heart and their ability to execute pitches than it does on their AAA or MLB stats to date.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1257 on: January 03, 2018, 09:45:50 pm »
Weber has never broken 100 IP in 1 season in AAA or 200 innings in total so no neither sample is large enough to be better. 


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1258 on: January 04, 2018, 10:12:53 am »
Mooney signed on with the Athletic and will cover the Cubs with Sharma.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1259 on: January 04, 2018, 10:19:20 am »
Looks like all the good baseball writers are consolidating at The Athletic.