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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1575 on: January 29, 2018, 03:12:16 pm »
Rangers reporter is now saying the same thing about Darvish and the Rangers.  This off season blows.

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« Reply #1576 on: January 29, 2018, 03:21:47 pm »
Seems a little strange that beat writers for two teams basically report the same thing at the same time about their team. Could be Darvish/his agent leaking information that's not necessarily true.
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« Reply #1577 on: January 29, 2018, 03:25:09 pm »
Here are the reports:
Andy McCullough of the LA Times that Darvish is waiting for the Dodgers to shed money:

Link: My understanding is that Yu Darvish has made clear he would like to return to the Dodgers, and part of the delay in his free agency is related to waiting to see if the team can move some of the money. The Dodgers have explored scenarios for moving useful but (theoretically) extraneous assets such as Yasmani Grandal, Logan Forsythe and Hyun-Jin Ryu. Given the fact that those players are still Dodgers and Darvish is still a free agent, you can guess how the market has reacted to this gambit by the front office.


T.R. Sullivan (Rangers beat reporter) for MLB.com saying all signs are pointing to Darvish wanting to return to Texas:

Link: It seems obvious -- reading all the signs -- that Darvish wants to return to the Rangers. The problem is the Rangers keep saying that it is "unlikely" that they'll be active at the top of the free-agent pitching market. Certainly the term "unlikely" leaves wiggle room, and the tedious dance continues with Rangers fans left tantalized by the wait.

Despite all other factors being tossed about, Darvish could be the one keeping the free-agent market from moving. He is the top starting pitcher on the market, and those guys usually sign in November. If Darvish were to sign, it could break the inertia. But he may be waiting to see if the Rangers blink first.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1578 on: January 29, 2018, 03:29:12 pm »
It's entirely possible that the Dodgers and Rangers are Yu's preferred destinations, and he's got some kind of tacit understanding with them that if they can move salary they'll make a competitive offer.  The timing of the two reports certainly isn't coincidental, but they doesn't necessarily mean they're BS.

I hope the hangup with the Cubs isn't an unwillingness to offer a 5th year.  No way you'll get Darvish on a straight 4-year offer, and I don't think you should - 5 years is quite realistic based on his track record.  If it's about not giving him a 6th year, that I'm fully on-board with.

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« Reply #1579 on: January 29, 2018, 03:32:26 pm »
It could be true. But either way, I think there's a good chance it's some kind of posturing. He's either trying to push the Cubs to make a bigger offer by hinting at interest from LA/Texas that isn't really there, or he's giving LA/Texas a last chance to make their move they need to make before adding him.

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« Reply #1580 on: January 29, 2018, 04:18:15 pm »
That seems pretty realistic to me.

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« Reply #1581 on: January 29, 2018, 04:23:11 pm »
Agree with posts.  Could be posturing.  And could totally be true.  Hometown discount or hometown preference is normal.  Why move from beautiful LA, which has a great team, and has better World Series chances than the Cubs particular if he resigns, and where he's made friends?  Why leave if they can make him a competitive offer?  Same might go with Texas, he's played there for years, he's comfortable and has made friends; if they make a competitive offer why move to Chicago? 

But, the ability/willingness to make a competitive offer would seem a challenge.  Camp doesn't open for another couple of weeks, so no rush for him. 

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« Reply #1582 on: January 29, 2018, 04:41:50 pm »
If he was saying how impressed he was with the Cub presentation, he may have been trying to get more money from Texas or LA?  I feel so...used.

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« Reply #1583 on: January 29, 2018, 05:39:38 pm »
Interesting note on Duensing:

The team has tried to add some free agents this offseason — The Chronicle has learned that Oakland offered left-handed reliever Brian Duensing $3 million more than the two-year, $7 million deal he accepted from the Cubs. The A’s also made outfielder Austin Jackson a one-year offer; he took a two-year offer from the Giants.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/athletics/article/Roster-turnover-other-A-s-issues-hot-topics-at-12530786.php?

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« Reply #1584 on: January 29, 2018, 05:55:26 pm »
Interesting note on Duensing:

The team has tried to add some free agents this offseason — The Chronicle has learned that Oakland offered left-handed reliever Brian Duensing $3 million more than the two-year, $7 million deal he accepted from the Cubs. The A’s also made outfielder Austin Jackson a one-year offer; he took a two-year offer from the Giants.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/athletics/article/Roster-turnover-other-A-s-issues-hot-topics-at-12530786.php?

$3,000,000 is a little over 30% of the nearly $9.8 million in total salary Duensing has made in his career up to this point.  Definitely not chump change to him at all.  Pretty shocking he'd turn that kind of money down.

Gotta tip your hat to him.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1585 on: January 29, 2018, 06:27:44 pm »
Seems a little strange that beat writers for two teams basically report the same thing at the same time about their team. Could be Darvish/his agent leaking information that's not necessarily true.

As shocking as the idea that there might have been gambling at Rick's place.





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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1586 on: January 29, 2018, 06:33:17 pm »
As shocking as the idea that there might have been gambling at Rick's place.



That's a movie scene that will bring a smile to my face every time I see it.

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« Reply #1587 on: January 29, 2018, 06:38:00 pm »
My wife and I watched the entire movie New Years Eve, and much of it had pretty much flown right by here when she had watched it before.  She hadn't really liked it before having it explained.

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« Reply #1588 on: January 29, 2018, 07:02:07 pm »
Our local indy theater showed it a couple of weeks ago to commemorate its 75th anniversary.  You probably ought to take her to see it on the big screen if it ever shows up in Chattanooga sometime.  That's the way to go see it.

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« Reply #1589 on: January 29, 2018, 07:19:25 pm »
Theo's grandfather and great-uncle were the screenwriters. 
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