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CurtOne

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1605 on: January 30, 2018, 06:38:53 pm »
That's 24 cents and any sake more than the rest of us.  Combined.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1606 on: January 30, 2018, 07:57:36 pm »
I will chip in another .26 if you give me the bottle of sake.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1607 on: January 30, 2018, 07:58:59 pm »
High Heat from the Brewers board is claiming the Cubs have the high offer on the table for Darvish FWIW.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1608 on: January 30, 2018, 08:00:08 pm »
High Heat from the Brewers board is claiming the Cubs have the high offer on the table for Darvish FWIW.

I'm guessing not much.

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« Reply #1609 on: January 30, 2018, 08:00:13 pm »
I still think we get him.

Im certain we'll get 1 of the 3.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1610 on: January 30, 2018, 10:24:03 pm »
High Heat from the Brewers board is claiming the Cubs have the high offer on the table for Darvish FWIW.

At this point, I think that HighHeat guy is basically another ABTY or BigBird. He probably has some contact, but that contact is something like a sales guy with the Brewers who has lunch once or twice a month with the assistant GM's assistant. He was definitive on the Cubs signing Darvish and the Brewers being out a week ago, and now he thinks the Brewers have a 40% chance of signing Darvish. He was similarly definitive on Santana being traded last weekend, and Santana is still with the Brewers. He called a Yelich deal, but he never really said anything but the deal was likely and that it would take Brinson+ (Brison+ was the obvious package).

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1611 on: January 31, 2018, 07:12:06 am »
I think he has a better source than ABTY, but his source isn’t in Stearns inner circle and he’s prone to making sweeping statements when his spice material doesn’t back it up. Rumors are never going to be 100%, even if we had info coming straight from Theo on this board.

Rosenthal is reporting the hold up is Brewers entering mix and Dodgers/Yanks trying to dump cash and the fact that nobody has met Sarvish’s number yet. The last bit might be the most important part.


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1612 on: January 31, 2018, 09:11:42 am »
BlueJay makes the pertinent point.  Short of Darvish or his agent, there is no source that could possibly know who he is going to sign with, or even who is the current high bidder.  Even if Epstein (or any GM) WAS a source, all he could tell you for sure is that he is very interested, and that he has or has not an offer on the table.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1613 on: January 31, 2018, 09:27:02 am »
The article I read this morning wasn't very encouraging.  It said it's between the Brewers and the Dodgers.  I think the speculation that Darvish would prefer to go back to LA has merit.  It explains the long wait.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1614 on: January 31, 2018, 09:34:33 am »
Or nobody has met his price/years yet.  I think there is a good shot that is the only reason he hasn't signed anywhere yet.

The Dodgers to unload enough money are going to have to hurt the team by giving up quality players or premium prospects to unload Kemp. 

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1615 on: January 31, 2018, 09:38:16 am »
I hope he sits out at this point. Would be entertaining to see this run into april.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1616 on: January 31, 2018, 10:08:41 am »
Or nobody has met his price/years yet.  I think there is a good shot that is the only reason he hasn't signed anywhere yet....

Yes.  Even so, not sure that's very meaningful.  Every agent's "price" is the best he can get. 
*Maybe originally they figured Scherzer ($210/7) would be good price/years to set.  It's not like he's going to sit out the year if he doesn't get that price.
*Or maybe they anticipated a realistic price of $130/5 guaranteed ($150/6 if 6th year vests), and Theo made that offer in December.  Wouldn't the agent still sit on it and allow the chance for somebody else go higher, or for Theo get antsy and bump it to $136/5 ($156/6 vesting year 6)? 

Don't imagine it's quite like a bag of cinnamon hearts that has a list price of $1.75, and my wife either does or doesn't add it to the shopping cart.  Whatever gets offered, the agent will end up taking the best; and whatever the best may be in December or now, he can wait in hopes of getting variably more. 


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1617 on: January 31, 2018, 10:27:03 am »
If we think we can get Darvish on a 4 year deal, I have to assume we were never that serious about him in the first place and just using him to try and lower Cobb's price.  That was never going to happen.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1618 on: January 31, 2018, 11:08:47 am »
It would be best to sign Cobb before Darvish goes elsewhere though and Cobb becomes the "it" guy on the market.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #1619 on: January 31, 2018, 11:12:53 am »
The article from MLB this morning said that the feeling was the Cubs were actually more interested in bringing back Arrieta.  Not sure on the thinking behind it.