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davebear

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2017, 11:10:26 am »
Score is reporting the Browns Cheifs and Texans were talking to the 9ers about the second pick.

Makes sense since the Chiefs and Texans did trade up for QB's

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2017, 12:29:23 pm »
Forget need. OT, FS Cb.
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dallasbear

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2017, 12:51:45 pm »
Teams rarely forget need.

OT is mid-level need but I see Cam Newton is still out there.

Tempting.

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2017, 12:53:56 pm »
Go get Cam... give Turbinsky a Dak Prescott line.

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 02:12:17 pm »
Charlie Caserly a Former GM was asked about the trade up move the Bears made.  His evaluation was they gave up two thirds and a fourth for a QB they think is going to a franchise QB.  Who cares what others think.  That was their guy and they gave up nothing to get him. 

3rd rounders only have a 30% chance of success in the NFL.  Charlie Caserly's numbers not mine.  His evaluation is, they gave up two picks who would only have a 30% change to make it and one pick with even less % for a Player they think is the real deal.  That is how you do it when you are running a draft.

dallasbear

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 03:28:59 pm »
Bears have 2017 first and second as well as 2018s first and seconds.

Pace made a bold move if he's right he's a star if not he joins the Angelo/Emery club.

And Rosenblog ridicules the trade so I like  Trubiskys chances better.

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 05:19:24 pm »
Cutler cost a lot more than Trubisky though Trubisky will be lucky to be as good as Jay was.
Hopefully he is a winner coming into his own.

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 06:33:54 pm »
And there you go. Reaccumulate picks. I'm ok with the trade.  Moved down 9 slots is all.

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2017, 06:40:28 pm »
Yep, with Robinson and McDowell off the board, easy decision...

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2017, 07:38:29 pm »
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3rd rounders only have a 30% chance of success in the NFL.  Charlie Caserly's numbers not mine.  His evaluation is, they gave up two picks who would only have a 30% change to make it and one pick with even less % for a Player they think is the real deal.  That is how you do it when you are running a draft. 

With that line of reasoning, Ditka must have been a friggin genius to give up his entire draft to go for Ricky Williams lol.....

Jackiejokeman

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2017, 08:33:49 pm »



 In the waiting to see what happens next mode :


 Pace assures his paycheck because everybody has to wait and see how what he drafted turns out.


 Since Glennon will be the starter and Trubisky will not.


 That's job security.




Grizzlybear34

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2017, 07:08:47 am »
Hey guys, what did I miss?  LOL  Was on the road and my work computer blocks this site.  Dallas called it wanting Trubiskey, I called 2 QBs drafted with first two picks so I was half right.  I drove back from Detroit to Nashville listening to WSCR on Friday so I got a full earful of the talk.  I think the best comparison was made Dan Parkins.  He went over the last 10 years of the exact picks made at the draft position of the picks we gave up in the 3rd and 4th rounds.  In 10 years, the only player of note was Ronnie Harmon (wrong spelling) running back for Denver.  You wouldn't recognize and of the other names.

The grades that the talking heads out there assign to the draft are as accurate as the mock drafts, completely subjective.  They make fans feel good for the moment, but that is it.  You like grades?  How about our dynamic 2015 draft class?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000491802/article/2015-nfl-draft-grades-bears-texans-falcons-earn-high-marks

"CHICAGO BEARS: GM Ryan Pace and head coach John Fox, both in their first year with Chicago, are intent on rebuilding the Bears with a bunch of intelligent, hard-nosed football players with non-stop motors. Fox, in particular, covets explosive big-bodied athletes at every position, which is why the Bears' draft features some of the top testers in pre-draft workouts. Kevin White is a dynamic pass catcher with exceptional speed, quickness and burst. He is a natural vertical stretch receiver who could blossom as a WR1 in the Windy City opposite Alshon Jeffery. Defensive tackle Eddie Goldman is a behemoth on the interior, but he plays light on his feet and provides the Bears with a run-stuffer/pocket-pusher at the point of attack. Offensive lineman Hroniss Grasu and running back Jeremy Langford didn't command a lot of attention during the pre-draft process, but each is a rock-solid prospect with the potential to contribute immediately as a role player. GRADE: A-"



The question comes down to only this.  Do you like that the Bears picked the top QB of a class FINALLY or would it have been better to push it off another year?  We have been pushing it off for years. 

Grizzlybear34

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2017, 07:19:12 am »
Everyone on the Score and every writer in the Tribune except Steve Rosenbloom are behind the pick, just saying...

Funny story, when I left Detroit at 2am, I got a chance to listen to the score over night.  I can't remember the guys name but he was heading to Disney World in Orlando after his show.  Apparently he doesn't follow college football closely because when the got to the recap and was pronouncing the names of players he kept calling Jabrill (JA-brill) Peppers, calling him JA-Quill Peppers.  He did that every update which was probably about 5 times, and never corrected it.  So either he wrote his own update and miswrote the name, or someone pranked him at the Score and he didn't know it.

Jackiejokeman

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2017, 12:50:59 pm »



 

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The question comes down to only this.  Do you like that the Bears picked the top QB of a class FINALLY or would it have been better to push it off another year?  We have been pushing it off for years. 


 Mayock said no QB in this draft was first round material. Wait until next year.


 We started a panic that the rest of the League bought into.


 Luckily when we finally drafted a DB he suffered a season ending injury last year keeping with a long standing BEARS tradition.


 

davebear

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Re: Draft Night
« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2017, 01:02:45 pm »
Chad Kelly should be off the board by now.