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Deeg

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 05:04:14 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on November 05, 2013, 09:45:00 am
Speaking of ABTY

Shark + Russell for multiple high end pieces not named Bradley.  No clue what those high end pieces are, but my feeling is the Cubs would be giving up the established major leaguer with the highest upside, so I'd rather not.

The Royals have floated Zimmer's name for Shark, but wouldn't be willing to give up anything else of value above A ball.  He talked with a Royal's higher up and they thought they would set the market for him, but "We are willing to pay for a fully loaded F-150, but the price is more like a Lotus."

I would probably take Zimmer straight up for Shark, if indeed KC were offering it.
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AndyMacFAIL

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 05:26:15 pm »
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JR

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 05:51:54 pm »
There's no way in hell the Royals floated Kyle Zimmer's name for Samardzija.  People are giving Verlander comparisons to Zimmer.
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CurtOne

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 06:12:34 pm »
Well, Jed, what would you say if we offered you Kyle Zimmer?

Jed, that would be very tempting, I think...

Bazinga!
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Deeg

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 06:18:51 pm »
Quote from: JR on November 05, 2013, 05:51:54 pm
There's no way in hell the Royals floated Kyle Zimmer's name for Samardzija.  People are giving Verlander comparisons to Zimmer.

Seriously, after the deals they made last year you doubt this is possible? These are the Royals.
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JR

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 06:28:37 pm »
No way in hell.
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CurtOne

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 06:45:31 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on November 05, 2013, 06:18:51 pm
Seriously, after the deals they made last year you doubt this is possible? These are the Royals.
  Actually, the Royals rolled the dice last year and lost a prime prospect, but they didn't exactly get beef hash in return.  Another decent deal this year, and they could contend for a WC.  However, I doubt Zimmer for Smarj. Barney maybe.
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CUBluejays

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2013, 06:57:32 pm »
I wasn't really clear what he was implying if Zimmer would be offered or they were just kinda thought about it and instead we're going to offer a bunch of A ball or lower players.  Zimmer also had some sort of injury issue at the end of year that might have involved a shoulder as well.  ABTY does have connections to the Royals FO because of his last job, so I'd take this as a better informed than his usual stuff.

The Royals will have a 1 year window before Shields leaves as a free agent, limited cash to replace Santana so an over pay might not be really far fetched.
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Deeg

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 07:17:53 pm »
Quote from: CurtOne on November 05, 2013, 06:45:31 pm
  Actually, the Royals rolled the dice last year and lost a prime prospect, but they didn't exactly get beef hash in return.  Another decent deal this year, and they could contend for a WC.  However, I doubt Zimmer for Smarj. Barney maybe.

But Shark isn't beef hash as far as I'm concerned...
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Robb

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 09:27:10 pm »
What's wrong with hash?  I love beef hash.
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StrikeZone

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2013, 09:30:09 pm »
The Royals also have a GM trying to win in order to save his job.  He may be a Jim Hendry looking to make a Matt Garza trade.
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brjones

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2013, 10:59:13 am »
Rockies beat writer Troy Renck has indicated on Twitter over the last week or two that he thinks there's about a 60% chance Dexter Fowler is traded this offseason.  I wonder what he'd cost...pretty good OBP guy, seems like a good fit with the Cubs.
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CUBluejays

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 11:15:50 am »
2013 Home/Away

Home .311/.396/.478  OPS .874
Away .214/.343/.335  OPS  .678

Career

Home .298/.398/.430  OPS .880
Away  .241/.333/.361  OPS .694

Anything greater than Barney would be too much.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 11:20:06 am by CUBluejays »
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brjones

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2013, 03:52:35 pm »
That's something to worry a little about...but I think Coors home/away splits get overstated for a few reasons:

1. Outside of Coors, the NL West is a hard place to hit.  Three of the other four parks are pitcher's parks (Petco, AT&T Park, Dodger Stadium).  About one third of Fowler's career road ABs have come in those three parks.  He has an OPS of about .630 in those three places, compared to about .725 in all other road parks.  If the Cubs traded for him, he'd pick up a high proportion of his road PAs in two parks that are good for hitters (Miller & Great American) and two that I perceive as fairly neutral (Busch and PNC).

2.  Most hitters are a little better at home than on the road. 

3. I don't have any proof for this, but I imagine that Coors is such an outlier as a hitter's park that it results in a kind of "hangover" effect when the Rockies go on the road.  Many Rockies hitters likely have pretty different approaches at home than they do on the road because it is so much easier to hit.  But in a more neutral park, they probably wouldn't make the same adjustments.

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CUBluejays

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Re: Hot Stove 2013
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2013, 06:46:49 pm »
Those are all fair points, but his offense is going to drop off some.  His defensive advanced stats are bad to just below average.  I just don't think he'd be worth the prospects or provide much improvement over Sweeney/Lake.
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