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yapper

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #285 on: August 01, 2011, 01:53:29 pm »
I was wondering how much longer the Vikings were going to put up with Bryant McKinnie's declining play...  looks like his time may finally be up.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/vikings-swipe-peytons-blind-side-protector/

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #286 on: August 01, 2011, 07:44:11 pm »
I was wondering how much longer the Vikings were going to put up with Bryant McKinnie's declining play...  looks like his time may finally be up.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/vikings-swipe-peytons-blind-side-protector/

 Soon to be with Randy Moss as another ex-Viking on the street looking for work ?

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #287 on: August 02, 2011, 10:56:03 am »
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- It was hours before the Green Bay Packers' first practice of training camp when tight end Jermichael Finley stepped in front of reporters and announced that if he makes it through this season without missing a game he would "change the tight end position."

Then came the exclamation point.

"I guarantee it," he said.

I didn't know what he meant then, but I do now. I attended practice the next two nights and saw the future of the tight end position in jersey No. 88 for the Green Bay Packers. It is Jermichael Finley, and he is part wide receiver, part tight end and All-World at one of the game's most important positions.

Not since Tony Gonzalez appeared on the scene have I seen a tight end with hands this sure. In fact, during Sunday's 7-on-7 drill, Finley did the improbable and caught two passes at once -- one with each hand.

I'm serious.

He circled to the right flat for a sideline pass when, suddenly, a second ball appeared on his radar. Apparently, quarterbacks Matt Flynn and Graham Harrell got their signals crossed, and both aimed at Finley at the same time.

No problem. He simply stabbed one pass with his right hand, one with the left, then continued downfield as if nothing extraordinary occurred. The play went largely unnoticed by fans, but those who saw it looked at each other as if to say, "Naaaaahhhh I didn't just see that ... did I?"

 You did. Welcome to Jermichael Finley's world where everything is possible.

"Just a natural reaction," Finley said later. "It was just one of those things where I saw one ball coming and caught it, then saw another and tried to catch [it]. I just tried to do something different."

Get ready for a lot of that this season, people. Because if Jermichael Finley stays healthy, he fulfills his guarantee. He will raise the bar at the tight end position, and he will establish himself -- not Jason Witten or Gonzalez or Vernon Davis -- as the best tight end in the NFC and the closest thing to Antonio Gates in pro football.

Correction: If he stays healthy, he puts Gates in the rear-view mirror and establishes himself as the premier pass-catching tight end in the NFL.

Notice I said, If. Finley hasn't completed a 16-game season in two years, and he's in the last year of his contract. So 2011 is important for a lot of reasons. He must prove he can stay on the field, and he must prove he's worthy of a long-term deal.

One is contingent on the other, and Finley knows it. If he stays healthy he cashes in big ... with someone. If he doesn't, the Packers are so deep at the position -- with rookie D.J. Williams an early camp hit -- he won't get the big bucks.

But I can't see them flushing him. I mean, how can you? When you see what Finley can do -- play wide, play on the line, make big catches over the middle, make big catches in the end zone, you name it -- it's hard to let go. Plus, the Packers tend to keep their valued contributors, with wide receiver James Jones and fullback John Kuhn this week's examples.

But Finley is in another stratosphere than those guys. I mean it. Seldom has there been a tight end with so much ability, so much promise and so much waiting for him.

"The guy's got it all," said cornerback Tramon Williams. "You have good guys, great guys and some guys who are just gifted. He is gifted."

He is so gifted that I would suggest there is no defense or no defender out there who can handle Jermichael Finley. Only Jermichael Finley can keep him from moving to the A-list of tight ends, and that has nothing to do with character, practice habits or attitude and everything to do with injuries.

He just can't shake them, missing three games in 2009 and all but five last year.

For that reason, the Packers are taking it easy with him, easing Finley into practices slowly. Finley doesn't mind, saying that "if they let me go Sept. 8 [the season opener] I'll be the happiest guy in the world." So will the Green Bay Packers and their legions of fans. Because what you see is the next great tight end in the NFL about to happen ... provided, of course, he stays on the field.

"He's a freak," said coach Mike McCarthy. "Some of the things he does out here you just shake your head at.

"I just had a conversation with James Jones and told him that the 90-catch, 100-catch season in Green Bay is probably not going to happen. And that's a credit to you guys. It would be fun to throw it every snap.

"Trust me, I believe in running the football, and I think about running about as much as I can. But you have some guys who can do things with the ball."

I know of one who can do everything. Here's hoping we get to see it.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #288 on: August 02, 2011, 11:03:29 am »
Soon to be with Randy Moss as another ex-Viking on the street looking for work ?

Supposedly the Vikings' coaching staff was profoundly unimpressed with McKinnie's efforts (or lack thereof) to stay in shape during the lockout.

Combined with his steadily declining play at LT and Phil Loadholt as the apparent 10-year guy at the RT position, it leaves one of the last remaining holdovers from the Love Boat days with very little leverage.

UPDATE 8/2/11: Bryant McKinnie was cut by the Vikings today.  Supposedly topped 4 bills at training camp weigh-in and that was all Frazier needed to pull the trigger.
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« Reply #289 on: August 02, 2011, 05:04:10 pm »
Yep - every pecker is a Pro-bowl, hall of famer. 16 and 0.

That was a sweet division win there by the Peckers last year.

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« Reply #290 on: August 02, 2011, 06:31:46 pm »
Cobb is the guy I have been pimping as a possible draft steal:

Green Bay - Practice was 15 minutes old when James Jones made his entrance to the practice field Monday on a young fan's bicycle. He embraced his Packers teammates, one by one, clearly happy to be back. After testing free agency, the wideout is staying in Green Bay and can start practice Thursday.

And while Jones may be the story of the week, rookie Randall Cobb stole the show Monday.

With a sequence of smooth route running and difficult catches, Cobb hinted that he may warrant some type of role in the Packers' receiver-heavy offense. For now, coach Mike McCarthy is tempering his enthusiasm.

"Randall is everything, physically, we thought he would be," McCarthy said. "He has a good understanding so far of what we've asked him to do. But he needs reps with Aaron (Rodgers), reps with the quarterback for the timing, the spacing, the routes and how each concept works."

Cobb caught one laser from third-stringer Graham Harrell midway through practice and took it straight upfield for a big gain. Later, his most impressive catch came on a 10-yard crossing route from Rodgers. The pass was high, but Cobb leaped and snatched it.

Opportunities this season could be limited for the second-round pick out of Kentucky. With Jones re-signing and Jermichael Finley returning, there are only so many passes to go around. All in all, it's a good problem for McCarthy to have. For now, Cobb will get the first crack at punt return duties. On Monday, he displayed a natural ability to track down punts and return them in stride.

Now comes the hard point for McCarthy - figuring out how to use Cobb on offense.

"We have an opportunity to play the way we did last year and hopefully expand," McCarthy said. "We have 47 new concepts that we've added to this offense. We're trying to improve schematically and continue to create opportunities.
 

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #291 on: August 03, 2011, 05:05:01 pm »
News from Motown...  Lions fans gotta just be going, "what the F"...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/nick-fairley-undergoes-surgery/

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« Reply #292 on: August 03, 2011, 05:26:36 pm »
News from Motown...  Lions fans gotta just be going, "what the F"...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/nick-fairley-undergoes-surgery/

 Welcome to the NFL Chris Williams ... Or is that Fairley ...

 Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Suck up that BEARRSSE juice for a draftee out of the mix !

 Been there ... done that. Hows his spinal cord doing?

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« Reply #293 on: August 03, 2011, 05:32:34 pm »
We don't play our 1st regular game season against the Lions till Oct 10 so we're probably not dodging a bullet there, unfortunately.

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« Reply #294 on: August 03, 2011, 05:41:15 pm »
We don't play our 1st regular game season against the Lions till Oct 10 so we're probably not dodging a bullet there, unfortunately.

 At least I'm in the shape to not know what the hell is going on ,on the OFFENSIVE LINE flux.

 I like to hope Tice knows what is going on ...  ;D

 GREEN BAY ... is what you set your sights on.

 Raji and Mathews ... we gotta stop them.

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #295 on: August 03, 2011, 05:45:37 pm »
That first game against the Lions is on Monday night.

I've got to think it's been a long, long time since a Bears/Lions game was a Monday nighter.

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« Reply #296 on: August 03, 2011, 06:50:13 pm »
•Rookie Randall Cobb is working at all three receiving positions as both a kickoff and punt returner and even as the backup holder. His acceleration and aggressiveness in the open field were eye-opening, at least with the team in shorts and helmets. Although much could change, McCarthy said he is giving Cobb a longer look at punt returner than at kickoffs. He is hoping Green emerges to handle the latter.


•McCarthy has been complimentary of rookie tight ends D.J. Williams and Ryan Taylor. Both are athletic and have good hands. Because of Finley's return schedule and Andrew Quarless' hip flexor, Williams and Taylor both got good work with the first team. You have to wonder whether Williams, especially, will challenge Quarless' roster spot.

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« Reply #297 on: August 03, 2011, 07:02:14 pm »
•Rookie Randall Cobb is working at all three receiving positions as both a kickoff and punt returner and even as the backup holder. His acceleration and aggressiveness in the open field were eye-opening, at least with the team in shorts and helmets. Although much could change, McCarthy said he is giving Cobb a longer look at punt returner than at kickoffs. He is hoping Green emerges to handle the latter.


•McCarthy has been complimentary of rookie tight ends D.J. Williams and Ryan Taylor. Both are athletic and have good hands. Because of Finley's return schedule and Andrew Quarless' hip flexor, Williams and Taylor both got good work with the first team. You have to wonder whether Williams, especially, will challenge Quarless' roster spot.
Packy,

 We are going to take one of two from you.

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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
« Reply #298 on: August 04, 2011, 11:04:44 pm »

One of two games...or rookie TE's?

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« Reply #299 on: August 05, 2011, 06:24:37 pm »
In a Thursday appearance on ESPN's Radio , Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews said training camp has been "more serious" with "less joking around" than in previous years. He also provided this assessment of the Packers' outlook:

"We've got something special going on here. We've got a group of young individuals who understand what we want. [We have a] quarterback who has his head on straight, a defense that's just been playing lights out and playmakers all over the board. So we have all that talent to do it again. Now it's just about getting back on that horse and taking it back to Indianapolis [site of Super Bowl XLVI] and where we want to be."