Author Topic: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)  (Read 58979 times)

otto105

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2014, 11:03:43 am »
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So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop? So, if people claim squatting or occupy rights to federal lands anywhere you would be good with it? If a Liberal leaning 401c that filed papers for the tax exemption turned around and engaged on political activity you would be fine with?



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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2014, 11:03:57 am »

 Who started the Rand Corporation ? Yer gonna **** when you find out.
 
 Look it up.


No need to look it up.  It was started by the Douglas Aircraft company.  Is that significant of something?

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Keysbear

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2014, 11:15:42 am »


So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop?


No, I thnk Eric Holder's  DOJ has  that covered.

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2014, 11:39:47 am »
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So protecting crimes or unlawful action is now the focus of the lip service law and order cult that is the modern day gop? So, if people claim squatting or occupy rights to federal lands anywhere you would be good with it? If a Liberal leaning 401c that filed papers for the tax exemption turned around and engaged on political activity you would be fine with?




Holder is protecting a lot of unlawful acts by Dumbocrats. In fact he is protecting himself in Fast and Furious for one thing. He is protecting himself for directing Lois Lerner. He keeps trying so snuff out damaging e-mails by trying to block access to them.

As for the tax exempts for conservative groups, I'd be fine with that provided they did that for liberal groups, unions, and community activist groups. Whats fair for the goose is fair for the gander, but don't make a rule for one political group but not the other. As for liberal groups doing political work, you mean they aren't? Of course they are doing so and you know that. Proof? You will be right back by denying it so you know it has to be true. The point is you just want liberal groups doing it and conservative groups not doing it. You don't think unions don't go around soliciting money for political candidates from their members? I was union and I know that's false.

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2014, 11:42:30 am »
And another thing Oddo since you are so pro enforcing the laws, why haven't you voiced your call for Holder to arrest all the illegal aliens for crossing the border illegally?

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2014, 11:55:23 am »
Only Otto could support the BLM sending 200 troops with automatic weapons to surround one lone rancher over a grazing fee debt. Harry Reid must really want that land bad.

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2014, 12:01:47 pm »
His son does. His son is set to make millions

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2014, 12:09:51 pm »
after reading a little more about this situation it looks like the family was leasing the land for years until the Federal govt took the land from the state. When the Feds confiscated the land the family quit paying the lease.
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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2014, 12:34:32 pm »
Rand Paul says the land should b transferred back to the state. Oh and the Feds control 81% of all Nevada land.

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2014, 12:35:04 pm »
That lone rancher is violating the law.  I have a problem with people screaming that illegal aliens should be prosecuted, but giving a pass to someone that is not only flagrantly violating the law, but doing so violently.

The Clinton administration foolishly waited months before going into Waco to deal with similar situations.  I hope that the Obama administration doesn't do the same.

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« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2014, 12:39:32 pm »
The issue at stake really is the land rights that go back to the 1880's which is the source of the disagreement. That issue should be brought before the Supreme Court. Its like the old Spanish land grants. Some of those claims aren't honored.

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc. (4.15.14 - 9.10.15)
« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2014, 12:57:27 pm »
That lone rancher is violating the law.  I have a problem with people screaming that illegal aliens should be prosecuted, but giving a pass to someone that is not only flagrantly violating the law, but doing so violently.

The Clinton administration foolishly waited months before going into Waco to deal with similar situations.  I hope that the Obama administration doesn't do the same.

I have not heard that the rancher was violent. I also have not heard that the rancher was in any way endangering children as was the allegation in Waco so I thnk that's an apples and oranges thing. It appears to me to be simply a money issue. If I owe my town money they put a lein on my house and wait until I sell or die to collect their loot. They don't send in stormtroopers to steal my property.

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« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2014, 01:07:09 pm »
But they have to send in storm troopers in because Rory Reid has already sold the land to the Chinese. They cant wait for Bundy to die. And it was sold for 11% of the actual value.