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Chris27

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Re: Today's Game 2018
« Reply #2430 on: May 14, 2018, 04:53:42 pm »
Cubs are 5-7 over their last 12 despite outscoring their opponents 72-56 in that span.


That's a 162-game pace for +216 runs and 94 losses.
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Ron

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« Reply #2431 on: May 14, 2018, 05:19:22 pm »

That's a 162-game pace for +216 runs and 94 losses.

Yeah, that's a likely result.

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« Reply #2432 on: May 14, 2018, 05:22:02 pm »
Aside from Quintana's difficulty in throwing strikes, it's almost as though the Braves hitters knew what pitch was coming. Maybe that's because it seemed likely 90% (if not more) of Quintana's pitches were 90 or 91 mph fastballs. 
I'm guessing that was not the game plan. What was up with that?

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« Reply #2433 on: May 14, 2018, 05:37:30 pm »
From what I saw, Quintana seemed like he was throwing plenty of curves as well as his 90-91 4-seamer.  But can't control the count throwing curves all the time. 

Doesn't look like he's got much to work with.  A chase curve is better when you've got something else you can throw for strikes and challenge guys with.  But his 90-91 4-seam fastball doesn't seem to have much life.  Looks kind of understandably scared to throw that fastball for strikes.  If guys aren't chasing, what can he do? 

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« Reply #2434 on: May 14, 2018, 05:43:55 pm »
Quintana’s stuff has never been elite, so if his velo is down a tick or his command isn’t sharp, he’s just a guy.

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« Reply #2435 on: May 14, 2018, 06:03:05 pm »
From what I saw, Quintana seemed like he was throwing plenty of curves as well as his 90-91 4-seamer.  But can't control the count throwing curves all the time. 

Doesn't look like he's got much to work with.  A chase curve is better when you've got something else you can throw for strikes and challenge guys with.  But his 90-91 4-seam fastball doesn't seem to have much life.  Looks kind of understandably scared to throw that fastball for strikes.  If guys aren't chasing, what can he do? 

craig - it was his fastball the Braves were pounding.

Is there somewhere we can find exactly how often he did throw his various pitches.  Watching at the ballpark, using the scoreboard, he seemed to be throwing almost exclusively fastballs.  On the few occasions I noticed him throw his curve or change up, they were balls. 

Chris27

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Re: Today's Game 2018
« Reply #2436 on: May 14, 2018, 06:36:10 pm »
Yeah, that's a likely result.

That's been the result for 12 games. Course, most people would understand when a point is being made.

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« Reply #2437 on: May 14, 2018, 06:48:20 pm »
Several people over the past few weeks have said that the Cubs are very sloppy, sloppier than we've come to expect.  Can anyone offer an opinion as to why?  Sloppy fundamental practice?  Nonchalance?  Poor coaching?  (Who is our infield coach?)  Too loose a clubhouse?  Too tense a clubhouse?  Weather?  Alignment of the stars?
still waiting for opinions

Deeg

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« Reply #2438 on: May 14, 2018, 08:15:58 pm »
I've said it before, but I don't think it's completely beyond the realm of possibility that Joe's act has lost its charm with a faction in the clubhouse.

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« Reply #2439 on: May 14, 2018, 08:18:58 pm »
What act is that and what sort of behavior do you think the faction in question would prefer?

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Re: Today's Game 2018
« Reply #2440 on: May 14, 2018, 08:59:11 pm »
Someone who will keep those darn kids in line and make them wear suits on trips. The suits will get them to take this job seriously.

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« Reply #2441 on: May 14, 2018, 09:40:26 pm »
What act is that and what sort of behavior do you think the faction in question would prefer?

Some players might have a limited tolerance for a manager who likes to be the center of attention, that's all I'm saying. It's possible.  Maybe all the catch phrases and theme trips and such wear thin with a certain type of personalty. And who knows, maybe there are guys who do prefer a more structured discipline system.

I think Maddon is an excellent manager in many respects, and I like him.  But this team sure has looked tuned out the past two seasons, and there could be underlying reasons for that.

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« Reply #2442 on: May 15, 2018, 12:09:22 am »
What act is that and what sort of behavior do you think the faction in question would prefer?


I think I know what sort of behavior the faction would prefer, and fortunately for us, such a person is very much available for us right now this very moment.










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Re: Today's Game 2018
« Reply #2443 on: May 15, 2018, 12:28:26 am »
Hardly.  That's probably the one guy who runs a looser clubhouse than Maddon.
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« Reply #2444 on: May 15, 2018, 07:26:17 am »
We have multiple young position players who have room to mature in terms of focus and skill.  I think Maddon is a good person to oversee and facilitate that.  I don't know what the deal is with our starters, but I doubt that the solution would be to change managers.