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JR

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« Reply #2085 on: June 21, 2021, 08:26:04 pm »
Nice pick by Wisdom there...

Bennett

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« Reply #2086 on: June 22, 2021, 12:34:53 am »
The Baez brain cramp is included


Reb

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« Reply #2087 on: June 22, 2021, 01:04:59 am »
Cubs trying hard to lose ground in the Central but having difficulty doing so....so far.

Brewers, Reds lose. Cards idle.

Brewers manage to break DBacks 17 game losing streak. Reds blow 2-run lead in extras.

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« Reply #2088 on: June 22, 2021, 01:21:28 am »
I actually find myself torn about whether I want them to stay in it or fall out. We have some really great, tradeable assets this year, and I find it hard to see us winning a series or two, even if we make it to the postseason. I definitely don’t want to see any significant prospects dealt when we are this much of a long shot.


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« Reply #2089 on: June 22, 2021, 12:48:52 pm »
Is it possible that the center fielder held up two fingers after the fielder’s choice grounder by Baez?  On purpose? Do outfielders signal the number outs on plays that don’t involve them?

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« Reply #2090 on: June 22, 2021, 01:06:22 pm »
The team has played like crap ever since that horrible decision to send Marisnick in New York.  Strange how sometimes one bad break just knocks the wind out of you and you can't get your swagger back.

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« Reply #2091 on: June 22, 2021, 01:21:00 pm »
Correlation or causation....

CurtOne

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« Reply #2092 on: June 22, 2021, 01:39:52 pm »
Not sure.  But it seems in all sports, sometimes you have a last second shot, a last second field goal, a great play at shortstop, a walk off homer, and SOME teams take more time than others to get their swagger back.  We've seen some odd decisions by Ross, good players like Baez forgetting the number of outs, hot hitters sitting, cold hitters continuing to play, guys continuing to swing for the fences having forgotten that contact was what was working when they were winning.  It's like an infectious disease.  Hopefully they'll all get vaccinated soon, but morale and confidence seem low to me.  Hate to keep using the word "swagger," but it's what I don't see with the team right now.

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« Reply #2093 on: June 22, 2021, 02:35:14 pm »
I actually find myself torn about whether I want them to stay in it or fall out. We have some really great, tradeable assets this year, and I find it hard to see us winning a series or two, even if we make it to the postseason. I definitely don’t want to see any significant prospects dealt when we are this much of a long shot.

I guess there’s always going to be an element of Cubs fandom who are uncomfortable about Cubs winning baseball games. Even in June when Cubs are tied for first place!

Out of 100 baseball fans who think this way, perhaps 90 are Cubs fans.

Probably a legacy of the “lovable losers” legacy.

That legacy is over. if you’re a Cubs fan, let me suggest that you actually root for Cubs to win games when Cubs are in a pennant race. But, to each his own.

craig

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« Reply #2094 on: June 22, 2021, 03:34:24 pm »
Not sure.  .... but morale and confidence seem low to me.  Hate to keep using the word "swagger," but it's what I don't see with the team right now

Beats me, but I think it's just the ups and downs of hitting in the major leagues.  Hard to swagger when you're getting shut out and you don't get hits or traffic, or drive guys in when they do get on. I'm not sure I see anything really different?  Baez is swinging hard with as much swagger as he always does, what's new?  Heyward and Bryant never swagger when they're hot; now that he's not does Bryant carry himself any different?  When Contreras gets big hits he celebrates; did he ever celebrate making outs?  Same for Joc, he has lots of fun when he's hitting, but did he ever celebrate about making outs in no-runs-scored innings?     
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« Reply #2095 on: June 22, 2021, 03:42:16 pm »

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« Reply #2096 on: June 22, 2021, 03:43:20 pm »
I think our definitions of swagger is different, Craig.   To me, it's not necessarily "cocky."  It's attacking with confidence, not just sitting back waiting for the long ball.  The announcers have been pounding about that this year, which I've been glad to hear.  Hit the ball somewhere, maybe something good will happen.  For a short time, and, yes, you're correct, it's the ups and downs of hitting, the Cubs had my definition of swagger...now they don't.

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« Reply #2097 on: June 22, 2021, 03:44:43 pm »
You know a number of us have expressed concerns about the trading of Baez, Bryant, or Rizzo, but I think the first guy to go will be Happ.  Just struggling.

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« Reply #2098 on: June 22, 2021, 04:04:45 pm »
I think our definitions of swagger is different, Craig.   To me, it's not necessarily "cocky."  It's attacking with confidence, not just sitting back waiting for the long ball.  The announcers have been pounding about that this year, which I've been glad to hear.  Hit the ball somewhere, maybe something good will happen.  For a short time, and, yes, you're correct, it's the ups and downs of hitting, the Cubs had my definition of swagger...now they don't.
I guess I'm suggesting nothing has necessarily changed in terms of mindset or approach.  Baez was swinging for the fences when they were hot, he's swinging for the fences when they were cold.  No  change.  Bryant had good AB's hot, he's giving the same types of AB's when he's cold, he's just not hitting the ball as well.  Sogard is giving the same competitive situational AB's now as when they were hot. 

Certainly when you have lots of baserunners and guys in scoring position, especially with <2 outs, there's more opportunity for small ball and situational execution. 

I'm thinking the intentions haven't really changed, it's just the results.  When hot, weak contact goes for bloop doubles, and ground balls find holes.  When cold, grounders are DP's.  When you're hot, aggressive baserunning sometimes works and looks aggressive and exciting, and maybe the Mets make a crummy throw and Marisnick scores and we love those aggressive make-things-happen Cubs.  When cold, the opponent executes and he's out; Ross's run-and-hits become DP's. 

For me, I think I have some selective memory, too.  If a guy gets picked off or thrown out on the bases but they score 5 runs and win anyway, I'm not sure I remember those baserunning outs that much, I remember the run-scoring plays instead.  But when getting shut out, I tend to remember the pickoffs and failed run-and-hits. 

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Re: Today's Game - 2021
« Reply #2099 on: June 22, 2021, 04:26:16 pm »
Let’s Get Some Runs!