Author Topic: Today's Game - 2011  (Read 18605 times)

boogie

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #105 on: August 23, 2011, 09:07:48 am »
Only saw the first half, but yikes.  Just like last year, 3rd and 15 and we give up a 20 yard pass.  I mean come on man.  As much as I didnt see Iwuh do anything wrong, I think if Lance Briggs was there they may have been a little better.  And when Urlacher and Peppers left things got a lot looser.  Hester had a nice catch but lost his balance and went out of bounds.  Plus a couple of drops.  And Roy Williams, looks like we got the Cowboys version not the Lions version.  This could be a very long season if they play like that all year. 

yapper

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2011, 09:10:56 am »
It was only the 2nd game after a practically non-existant training camp and no off season meetings. Give the new guys time to gel before you wave the white flag.

Uh, the Giants had the same non-existent training camp and no offseason meetings.  And by the looks of things they have a lot of new guys on their team too, including new WRs and new O-Linemen, same as us. Yet they appeared to be in mid-season form.  A lot of that comes down to talent, but it's also coaching and culture.
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Dave23

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #107 on: August 23, 2011, 09:13:07 am »
They're also missing their starting CB, leading tackler, and leading interceptor for the season.

Sometimes, going all out in a week 2 preseason game isn't the best idea...

yapper

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #108 on: August 23, 2011, 09:16:12 am »
What bothers me the most is that as much as their 1st stringers whipped our 1st stringers, the difference in talent between their scrubs and our scrubs was even more pronounced.

Once you get past the starting 11 on each side of the Bears' roster, our depth looked really really bad last night.

yapper

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #109 on: August 23, 2011, 09:26:46 am »
Sanzabacher looked OK and I can see why people like the kid.  He's really small and not very fast but he seems to know what's going on out on the field.  I don't foresee him having a real long NFL career due to his physical limitations but he showed me enough that I think we need to try and find a place for him. We need another Tom Waddle type on this team and he could be the one.

Kris Adams...  meh.  I was expecting more based on the raves from training camp.  Yeah he's tall but so what. There's a lot of tall WRs in the NFL that don't play up to their size and he just looked like one of those to me last night.

WshflThinking

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #110 on: August 23, 2011, 11:11:52 am »
Did anybody see a Fantuz sighting?

Keysbear

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #111 on: August 23, 2011, 11:14:17 am »
very late in the game...about 4 minutes to go.

Bears4Ever

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2011, 11:15:27 am »
He caught a pass late.....

WshflThinking

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #113 on: August 23, 2011, 11:16:41 am »
Bet he gets cut. I had high hopes for him before the lockout ended.

yapper

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #114 on: August 23, 2011, 11:48:25 am »
I actually can't fault Angelo for the Fantuz signing.  At least he was thinking outside the box. It's not like we're really out that much if we cut  him. It would have been great if he worked out but oh well.

Beats the heck out of cutting 2nd and 3rd round draft picks. 

dallasbear

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« Reply #115 on: August 23, 2011, 12:06:57 pm »
Welcome to over-reaction Tuesday!   Pekin and Phil were for the most part spot on for their remarks...most of the rest of you....spot-off.

Offensively, our 2 pressing concerns in the offseason on offense were O-line and wide receiver.  O-line did a pretty good job.  Webb for the most part held his own - he had a couple semi-whiffs but none led to a QB sack.  Carimi had another solid game.  Both Lance Louis and Chris Williams did a decent job too.  They both need more work considering they are lining up next to new guys.  Garza did well pass blocking but I saw him whiff on a pull.   I think these same guys live to play another week.

Now to the WRs.  I said prior to the season that Roy Williams and Devin Hester could put the Bears at the top of the most passes dropped list.

Hester is amazingly talented but amazingly inconsistent.  Makes a nice catch on a wide open pass along the sideline (though he did lose his balance and step out of bounds).  Then follows that up with 3 bonehead plays:  trips over his feet on an out pattern that would have went for a TD, drops another TD pass on the same series, and makes a bad decision not to follow his blockers on a screen and gets hit with a 5 yard loss.  More times than not those screens and end arounds to Hester flat out don't work.

You love the big play potential but you need a WR you can trust too.

That brings me to Roy Williams.   He's show the inconsistency of Hester but not the talent...yet.   I think he'll get better with time but he is currently NOT beating out Johnny Knox at split end.

And if you noticed last night Knox was not playing with the 1s meaning he's behind Roy, Hester and Bennett.
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Phill23

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #116 on: August 23, 2011, 01:07:21 pm »
Phil34

Last year the bears beat only three teams with a winning record. See anything that will change that?

The year BEFORE the majority of the team's the Bears played HAD winning records going into last season.  They can't control how they turned out in 2010.  That's a weak answer.

dallasbear

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #117 on: August 23, 2011, 01:19:59 pm »

Not counting the playoffs but during the regular season the Packers beat FOUR teams with winning records.

yapper

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #118 on: August 23, 2011, 01:26:52 pm »
Dallas, do you think we have a better team player-for-player this year than we did last year?  In other words, after adding Roy Williams, Barber, Okoye, Gholston, Spencer, Spaeth and this year's rookies... and subtracting Manu, Tommie Harris, Danieal Manning, Greg Olsen, Kreutz, Aromashadu, etc...  are we net positive for talent, or negative?

On paper it would appear we've improved significantly but on the field it's been a different story.  Carimi is definitely an upgrade at RT...  Spaeth is a better blocking TE than Manu...  Barber is better than Taylor (who I assume he will displace).  Other than that... 

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Re: Today's Game
« Reply #119 on: August 23, 2011, 01:37:19 pm »
On the field the players have to BRING it - team chemistry and desire can swing the talent either way - positive or negative - or injuries