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joki13

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Re: Today’s Game 2019
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2019, 11:00:16 am »
  To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.
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« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2019, 11:12:41 am »
  To think e could have had Mahomes without trading away a bunch of draft choices. Trubisky was only a one year starter. I watched Mahomes play lights out at Texas Tech for two years. I watched the tape on Trubisky and I just couldn't see what all the excitement about him was coming from. I was OK with the selection cause we needed a QB,but,I thought Pace was stupid for trading so much when Mahomes would have been sitting there for us. Oh well hind sight. I will say one thing that hurt was the lack of playing time in the exhibition season. It showed last night.

31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.

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« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2019, 11:37:49 am »
The whole thing has me wondering about Pace. Were we a really crappy team when he took over? Absolutely. Are we a much improved team? yes. But there are things that are glaring. A lot of people were shocked by the Bears move to get Trubisky. Even as late as the end of the last season I thought Trubisky would be fine. I know it's just the first game, but come the fukk on.. Mitch looked like sh!t last night. Another thing, where the h3ll is our TE? No TE? There is just no excuse for last night..
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chifaninva

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« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2019, 11:40:33 am »
31 teams didn't forsee how good Mahomes would be so early.

31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.

I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..

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« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2019, 11:47:03 am »
joki was the one person here who was on Mahomes pre-draft. Props to him for that...he nailed that one.

I'd be curious to see how many snaps Miller was on the field for...I'd bet it was less than half their total snaps. I saw more of Wims than I did Miller. And I only recall one target, and Tru badly overshot him...

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« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2019, 12:01:26 pm »
I think on the Hoge and Jahns podcast they said that Hicks and Mack were both out for some of the plays on the GB TD drive. 

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« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2019, 12:09:40 pm »
31 teams didn't have a shot at Mahomes, he went 10th. It's all a crap shoot, agree, but Mitch was a serious crap shoot.

I can't get over how bad the O looked last night..

Any team could have made the trade Kansas city did.
My point is he was erratic in college and far from a sure thing.
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« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2019, 02:11:08 pm »
Wims 20 of 71 plays...Miller 15 of 71...

Trubisky needs to do a much better job of finding the open man...ARob was blanketed by 2 guys on the pick in the end zone. Stupid pass...
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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2019, 03:20:22 pm »
Should have drafted Mahomes. KC will go to SB before the Bears

This is like saying water is wet.

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« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2019, 03:36:08 pm »
Mahome's rating his last year in college was 157.0.   Trubisky's was 157.9.

Mahome's came from school known for churning out system QBs (Texas Tech) while Trubisky played in a pro offense at NC.   There was some question as to whether Mahomes was another system QB.   And I don't know many of the draft experts that Mahomes ahead of Trubisky. 

Plus Trubisky doesn't play with all-pro's Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.

And the guy that the Bears were supposed to take at #3 in the 2017 (Solomon Thomas) isn't even starting for the 49ers.

Trubisky did not have a good game and he's not Pat Mahomes NFL MVP,  but I'm not going to start whining about what we shoulda coulda done in the draft.  Trubisky has shown that he's better than what he did last night.

Recall the Bears were ranked in the bottom third of the NFL in offense last year.  What changed this year?  Did they add any game breaking receivers?  They added David Montgomery and barely utilized him.  They also lost the services of a very good TE in Burton which is a good portion of the offense.

Bears need to cleanup their blocking assignments especially with Daniels and Whitehair's position swap, get Montgomery more involved (and Cohen), get Burton healthy, get Miller and Wims involved and Nagy needs to balance his play calling better.

Recall last year we were in a similar spot after the opener and the Bears rebounded.  Next week is game 2 - come off the ledge.

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« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2019, 04:41:07 pm »
Good thing they have more than a week to right the ship.

I don't think the Broncos are going to be very good, and Flacco sure isn't Rogers.

If Nagy is a good coach they will play much better on offense next week. 

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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2019, 05:26:22 pm »
One thing Mahomes has that Mitch doesn't, Andy Reid..

Mitch has to show that he is better than he was last year. Last night he didn't show any progress.. Remember, this is the NFL (not for long).. Another thing, remember, Mitch was already here when Nagy took over.

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« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2019, 05:43:11 pm »
The test next week will be Fangio's D against Nagy/Mitch.  No doubt Fangio knows the ins and outs of both.  Lets see if he can capitalize. 

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« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2019, 05:47:06 pm »
We're all mad as hell.  Like many of you were doing earlier in the evening,  I was screaming at my TV at 3am this morning watching the recording of the game (surprised no one at home heard me).

Sure, I felt bad that we got embarrassed on national TV against our biggest rival in the 100th year of the NFL - just like we did when they retired Sayers and Butkus number years ago.  And I also threw a pity party on why the Bears can't ever have a decent offense.  I've spent years...no, decades watching a defense play its heart out and then the keystone cops Bears offense lines up and trips over their diks.

But did you notice the completions Trubisky made were usually in very tight windows.  The passes to Robinson down the sideline.  Even the pass when Gabriel was pushed out of bounds was tight throw.  Some of Cohen's throws had guys closing in on him a split second before the ball arrived.  I give credit to the Pack on their DB play.  They have loaded up on DBs the past 4 or 5 years in the draft and now have 2 #1s, a #2 and Amos.   With the Bears abandoning the run it played right into their 4 - 1- 6 alignment. 

I bet the Bears don't want to wait 10 days to wipe the stench of this game from their memory, but it will give them some time to work things out and maybe even Burton can use the time to get back to health.  And I'd bet Miller isn't 100% right now either.

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« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2019, 05:52:03 pm »
The team just didnt look ready for game play. If only the NFL had some series of games they play before games started counting... not sure if we can look into that. Perhaps Nagy's move pays off in January, but the NFL is too competitive to punt the first 1-2 weeks of the season because you decided to bench all your starters and your opponents did not. The OL showed very clearly their communication was not game ready, nor imo was their physical conditioning.