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Sportster

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2016, 03:26:15 pm »
lol, yeah sure Dal. We should have left all those great secondary players in place, we were 4th after all..... seriously, dude....

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2016, 03:32:19 pm »

I'm not worried about Fuller - he's not pro-bowl quality or even sniffing pro-bowl quality but he's solid.  I'm not that comfortable with Porter and wish we had a young up and comer pressing him. 

We don't.

Sportster

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2016, 03:37:56 pm »
So far he's a body filling a spot. He hasn't come close to fulfilling his first round pick status. If he doesn't pick it up, he will likely end up as his replacements backup or be traded. You play how you practice, generally. There's always the story of the perennial pro bowler 'sitting it out' and lighting it up on gameday. This is not Fuller's history....

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2016, 04:47:53 pm »

At this point it doesn't matter where he was drafted and that he's not fulfilling a first round status - what matters is whether he's playing up to what your paying him (he is) AND whether you have an upgrade to take his job (Bears don't).

BTW, there are 59 NFL cornerbacks making more than Fuller on an annual basis - I'd bet that there aren't 59 NFL cornerbacks that are better.

Hopefully, we generate a better pass rush and Fuller has a better year.

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2016, 08:59:30 am »
LAKE FOREST — When the Bears traded up for long and lean Leonard Floyd last month, they bet on Floyd and their veteran coaches, but also the strength and conditioning staff to mold his body into NFL form.

Perhaps the work Jason George and his assistants did with Hroniss Grasu over the past year helped persuade Ryan Pace to make such a gamble.

Grasu arrived in Chicago as a third-rounder last spring with sterling intangibles to become a long-term center fixture; he just needed to add bulk after playing in the Ducks' hyper-speed spread attack at around 290 pounds.

Fast-forward a year and Grasu tips the scales at 310 — "all good weight," he said.

"That’s the heaviest I’ve ever been, but I don’t feel like it," Grasu said Wednesday following the Bears' OTA. "I feel like I’m in the 290s. My body-fat percentage is the same as it was before when I was in the high-290s, 300. So it’s all good."

He credits entrusting the Bears, his own trainer Ryan Flaherty, and his family's culinary background in helping the transformation. Grasu said he could've put on the weight quickly, but he's benefited more from a more gradual and natural process.

"Just put it on slowly... But my weight’s up there and I feel good out there. I’m stronger and it should be good," he said.

Grasu's strength limitations were noticeable in his first preseason and on his first NFL series, which ended in Pro Bowl nose guard Dontari Poe overowering Grasu en route to a strip-sack of Jay Cutler resulting in a safety. But to his credit, Grasu made impressive strides throughout his eight rookie starts despite admitting, like all rookies, learning the systems was another lengthy process.

"... I thought I knew a lot about the playbook, but once I got through this offseason I realized, wow, it's crazy what Year One to Year Two, how much you can get better at," Grasu said.

His expectations as a sophomore, then, are to play with a lot more confidence, which will help unlock Grasu's added strength but also the speed and agility Chicago is prioritizing more in its O-line this season.

And any confidence issues he endured as a rookie, Grasu said, will become a teaching point for second-round guard Cody Whitehair. Grasu plans to mentor Whitehair, just as Matt Slauson and Will Montgomery did for him, while continuing to reap the beneits from the experience of new teammates, Manny Ramirez and Ted Larsen.

"[Whitehair] got drafted here and I just told him, your rookie year will be the hardest year and everyone expects great things out of you, but just trust yourself, trust that you're a very good player," he said.

Indeed, Grasu's growth — both figuratively and literally — has made him more confident as he attempts to win his starting job again. It's a new year, and a second opportunity for Grasu to establish himself as a fixture in the middle of the Bears' revamped line.

"No longer a rookie," summarized Grasu of his in-house evaluation after last season. "Got to take the next step of being one of the leaders on the offensive line. By playing center, you're naturally in a position to lead the offensive line, and luckily I have guys around me that are great leaders.

"The whole offensive line unit, we're gonna lead this offense and lead this team together and we're very confident in our room, confident in our team to take the next step forward."

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2016, 09:23:21 am »

Grasu will also benefit from playing right next to Kyle Long (both played together at Oregon).

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2016, 12:17:35 pm »
He does sort of have a point:

Wait, Alshon Jeffery can come to town to throw out the first pitch and conduct the seventh-inning stretch at Saturday’s Cubs game but he can’t come to town to work out with his teammates during scheduled offseason team activities at Halas Hall this week?

John Fox, as footbally as a football coach can get, must hate this. Hate this. Hate this. Hate this. I don’t care what he says or how he tries to play it off, Fox is all football all the time, and demands that of his team or you won’t be on his team. See your neighborhood “Black Unicorn’’ for details.

Fox wants everybody on the roster to get on the field, and he wants it now and forever, because voluntary is mandatory in Fox’s world. Anything less is heresy. You hear that, Alshon Judas?

Apparently not. Jeffery has refused to join his teammates, many of whom are new, because he has chosen to work out in Florida after signing his one-year, franchise player contract. This seems as much a dare as a program.

Maybe the oft-injured Jeffery is working hard to get in shape and remains healthy all season, maybe not. But right now it looks like Jeffery is working hardest at getting traded.

Sportster

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2016, 12:49:06 pm »
He may be working out with a well regarded trainer and Fox is ok with that. Don't know...

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2016, 01:13:45 pm »
Yeah that is what I hope for, but come on man, he took a day to go to Wrigley to see a game....

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2016, 03:33:08 pm »



 If you build a DEFENSIVE LINE ... LINEBACKER CORP ...


 that can dominate consistently ... lets keep that statement in mind ,


 what would you need more in the secondary ?


 Safety's that can take advantage of DEFENSIVE LINE & LINEBACKER control ...


 or Cornerbacks that handle things when things are out of control ?


 Now you have to ask yourself ... can DL & LB call the shots before it gets to secondary ?

dallasbear

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2016, 04:02:50 pm »

Maybe the oft-injured Jeffery is working hard to get in shape and remains healthy all season, maybe not. But right now it looks like Jeffery is working hardest at getting traded.
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Or....he's listening to his agent while the agent negotiates a long term deal and has suggested that Alshon minimize contact with his teammates and coaches during the process.

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2016, 10:21:29 am »
He has not been practicing his singing - that is for sure!

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2016, 12:11:08 pm »
The July 15 deadline for players with franchise tags to sign multi-year contracts with their current teams is drawing nearer and the word out of Chicago isn’t filled with optimism that the Bears and wide receiver Alshon Jeffery will get a deal done.

Jeffery has already signed the franchise tender, setting himself up to make $14.6 million during the 2016 season, and has been working out on his own during the voluntary stages of the team’s offseason workout program. If that absence is designed to get him a long-term contract, it doesn’t appear to be having the desired effect.

While Bears General Manager Ryan Pace has talked about productive talks about a contract, Dan Wierderer of the Chicago Tribune reports that it is “a near certainty” that Jeffery plays out the year on the tag. One of the biggest reasons why things will likely play out that way is the injury-plagued season that Jeffery had in 2015.

Wierderer and colleague Rich Campbell both believe Jeffery needs to show the Bears he can stay healthy before they’ll enter into a long-term relationship with the wideout. If Jeffery can pull that off, it should also prove more lucrative for him as he’ll hit the negotiating table on the back of a more successful season.

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2016, 02:32:25 pm »

2013 - 16 games   1400 yards 7 TDs
2014 - 16 games    1100 yards 10 TDs
2015 - 10 games      800 yards  4 TDs

Oh yeah, one injury season after 2 pro-bowl seasons and Jeffery has to prove he can stay healthy.

Add Jeffery to the ex-Bears club with Bennett, Marshall, and Forte.

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Re: 2016 Chicago Bears
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2016, 07:54:35 am »
Didn't Jeffrey miss a lot of his rookie season as well?