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WshflThinking

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1380 on: December 06, 2017, 05:29:37 pm »
I see the point. It really depends on who and what is available. If you can get what you need later then yes drop down a bit. But because we are 2 picks down the drop down idea isnt something to be dismissed.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1381 on: December 06, 2017, 10:26:11 pm »
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chifaninva

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1382 on: December 07, 2017, 05:05:04 am »
I agree about the picks, it would have to be a complete no brainer to stay put. I can't believe this team is still devoid of talent.. At least Angelo did well in free agency, Pace needs to start to show something and it better start with the next pick for coach..

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1383 on: December 07, 2017, 05:05:47 am »

dallasbear

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1384 on: December 07, 2017, 11:13:05 am »

I think we're actually are 1 pick down.  We gave up our 3rd for Trubisky and our 6th or 7th for Inman, but we have an extra 4th from trading ??  Bostic?

I think Pace has done OK in free agency.  Some hits some misses, but when you have so many holes in your roster you're going to be bringing in a lot of guys each year.




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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1385 on: December 07, 2017, 01:12:48 pm »



 16 game starters in the Draft ?


 Gimme all in the draft !


 Do we want a supahstah who never performs ... or joe lunchbox there for 16 games.


 I'll take the lunchbox guy. The more Grabowski's the better.


 We have to define the future not according to the NFL ... but CHICAGO BEARS.


 Defining ourselves according to what's hot in the NFL has not worked for us.


 We have the history since 1985 to prove it.


 Time to be ourselves again.  ;D


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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1386 on: December 07, 2017, 04:16:00 pm »
This is a sad but true obituary for a once proud franchise....

Column: Bears’ futility has proved to be extreme and prolonged

By  Dan Wiederer•Contact Reporter
Chicago Tribune

December 6, 2017, 4:10 PM


Prince Amukamara was sounding it out as best he could. The veteran cornerback was still processing the Bears’ 15-14 loss to the 49ers on Sunday and working to articulate the frustration. But then came a direct question.

Was a loss like this embarrassing for the Bears?

“Are you saying because of the 49ers’ record?” Amukamara asked.

Yes, he was told. After all, the 49ers had won only one other game all season, downing the reeling Giants in Week 10.

So was a defeat like this embarrassing?

“Not embarrassing,” Amukamara said. “We’re just disappointed. Because I think there are games in the NFL where you look and say, ‘OK, we should win this game. We’re pretty confident.’ And to be blunt, this was one of those games.”

Look, there’s nothing wrong with confidence, which the Bears had plenty of heading into the 49ers game. And there’s nothing wrong with a team feeling like it should beat an inferior opponent. But by now, the Bears need to realize they aren’t superior to anyone in the NFL, that their self-assurance is often hollow.

A team that has lost nearly three-quarters of its games over a four-season span can’t accidentally stumble into lapses of overconfidence. A team five years removed from its last winning season shouldn’t traipse anywhere near a misguided belief that it’s on the cusp of bigger things.

Chew on these nuggets of ineptitude.

This season alone 19 NFL teams have enjoyed a winning streak of at least three games. The Bears’ last three-game surge? Well, that came in the first month of the Marc Trestman era — way, way back in September 2013. The only NFL teams that have gone longer without a three-game winning streak? There are none. (Even the Browns have won three in a row more recently, doing so in the middle of 2014.)

The Bears have also been in last place in their division since Dec. 22, 2015. The only team stuck in their division basement for longer, without even a one-week peek outside: the Browns.

The Bears have made only one playoff appearance in the last 10 seasons. The other teams without multiple trips to the postseason party in that span: the Browns, Buccaneers, Rams, Bills, Titans, Raiders and Jaguars.

The Bears have only 25 wins in the five seasons since Lovie Smith was fired. The teams with fewer victories over that stretch: the Jags (23) and Browns (15).

You are the company you keep.

As the city of Chicago knows by now, Sunday marked just the seventh time in three seasons under coach John Fox that the Bears were favored to win. It also marked the seventh time in such games under Fox that they lost. That is a disturbing trend that speaks to some calamitous glitch within the system.

Is it lack of focus? Poor preparation? Unusual overconfidence? Maybe a combination of everything?

Who knows? But the inquest at Halas Hall to further examine this franchise’s prolonged failure must intensify.

Sunday’s loss wasn’t just an unfortunate stumble. This was Wile E. Coyote chasing the Road Runner off the cliff, plummeting to the ground then taking an anvil to the skull before accepting a package of lit dynamite.

Cue the violins.

These aren’t just your 2017 Bears. This is yet another low point for a franchise that has been sputtering for much of the past quarter-century. Since 1992, in fact, the Bears have had more 10-loss seasons (nine) than playoff appearances (five). And that 10-loss season total will soon tick up to 10, perhaps as soon as Sunday in Cincinnati.

It’s also worth mentioning that the Bears have not been at .500 at any point since Week 7 of 2014. The only team with a longer skid of futility in that department? Again, there is none.

It all speaks to an organizational failure to establish proper standards in the pursuit of success. Under the weight of such damning evidence, team Chairman George McCaskey should feel obligated to fully examine and then explain the perpetual malfunction.

Yet somehow there’s still no guarantee things won’t get worse before they get better.

Three weeks from now, Fox’s team will host those still-winless Browns on Christmas Eve at Soldier Field. The Bears will likely be favored and expecting to win. In other words, buckle up. The embarrassment could continue.

Either way, significant changes will soon be necessary. Ultimately, if there is a true commitment to turning things around, McCaskey should go through every corner of the building and insist that improvements be made. That will require new leaders in some areas and different philosophies in others.

The Bears’ brain trust can no longer hide from the mirrors at Halas Hall. They need to take a long look and be brutally honest with what they see. Just a forewarning, none of it is

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1387 on: December 07, 2017, 05:45:49 pm »

Yeah, the Bears have sucked for a long time.   Extra!  Extra!

Bears need to focus on evaluating for next year.  Which means tell Simms to sit his butt down and put Shaheen in there.  Daniel Brown can play too.

Why or why aren't we playing Wheaton...he knew how to run patterns in Pittsburgh - why can't he master our complicated offense?

Defensively, we have no choice but to play Ballard and Robertson-Harris...a lot.  And I saw some flashes from John Jenkins last week - put him in there too.  Looks like Bryce Callahan is finally healthy.  Get him back in the lineup.  Deon Bush needs to start and not Chris Prosinski.

And how about this...let Trubisky throw a long ball to somebody...I think he can throw those 10 yards slants.  And if the Bengals load the box check down to short passes...nothing wrong with throwing a 3 yard pass that some one like Cohen might break for a big gain.

I get tired of watching the other team open up the game with creative plays...and thinking, Hey, why can't we do that?  And why can't Trubisky have some designed plays where he runs with the ball...might be a way to pick up some of those 3rd and 3s that have been so elusive. 

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1388 on: December 07, 2017, 06:55:10 pm »
It's also like they forgot that he can roll out...  Keep him in the pocket

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1389 on: December 07, 2017, 07:26:38 pm »
 I read Muhammad Wilkerson has worn out his welcome with the Jets and will not be back next year. Reason is missing practices,inconsistent play,actions detrimental to the team? Maybe a change of scenery might spark some enthusiasm? I'd consider bringing him in on a pay to play contract with a modest base and large incentives.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1390 on: December 08, 2017, 05:53:46 am »
One thing I have seen this year is the defensive line rotation is hardly a rotation.  For a stretch, Hicks was playing almost every snap.  As much as the defense is on the field, it was inevitable that he would wear down.  We need to see more of Bullard these last 4 games and bring some other big bodies for the dline.  Hicks and Goldman need to be better preserved during the season to be effective, and that starts with more bodies.  I would welcome Wilkerson.
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chifaninva

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1391 on: December 08, 2017, 06:00:35 am »
I agree, we need to start thinking about next year.

WshflThinking

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1392 on: December 08, 2017, 08:03:07 am »
Agreed

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1393 on: December 08, 2017, 08:47:47 am »
One thing I have seen this year is the defensive line rotation is hardly a rotation.  For a stretch, Hicks was playing almost every snap.  As much as the defense is on the field, it was inevitable that he would wear down.  We need to see more of Bullard these last 4 games and bring some other big bodies for the dline.  Hicks and Goldman need to be better preserved during the season to be effective, and that starts with more bodies.  I would welcome Wilkerson.

I said that in September when the roster came out 5 DL was not enough

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1394 on: December 08, 2017, 10:22:43 am »
It is kind of sad when mediocrity would actually be a step "up" for this franchise.......

John Faux football has taken a lot of the interest of watching the Bears out of it. Watching the redzone every week and most of the other primetime matchups (Sunday night, Monday, Thursday) I see a lot of teams that the Bears do NOT look like. This team does not even LOOK to be even on the same playing field as most of its opponents or most of those other teams. They seem to try hard but fail anyway. Kind of like a Special Olympics team competing in the actual Olympics....

This team can recover but only if the "brain trust" (I use that term loosely) makes the right decisions in the offseason (a very BIG leap of faith required there).

But the scars of the last 3 decades (losing 2006 SB included) will take a longer time to heal for as long as the dead hand of the McCaskey's is in control of this ship, it will continue on its rudderless way.....

Yay to the offseason.....
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