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Jackiejokeman

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1020 on: September 18, 2017, 03:16:35 pm »



 Yes I would play Glennon for as many games as possible.


 Barring an injury he should start as many games as possible.


 There is no Offensive Line.


 There are no Wide Receivers.


 Running Backs have been reduced to zero.


 Let Glennon take the 14.5 million dollar hit.


 That's why he's being paid.


 Actually he didn't do too bad in a losing effort.


 Trubisky should be used in a clean up effort...


 assuming we have the lead late in the fourth quarter.


 Otherwise he stay's off the field.


 We got our clock cleaned by the BUC's .


 What the hell did you think was going to happen after what they went thru ?


 It wasn't about us ... it was about what they went through in a hurricane.


 Any team would have lost to Tampa after that.


 What about Pittsburgh ?

chifaninva

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1021 on: September 18, 2017, 07:04:16 pm »
I have never seen a team be decimated with injuries like this year after year.

This was week 2 of a 16 game schedule for **** sake!  Only 5 O-linemen healthy.  Projected top 2 WR gone for the year.  Two inside LBers gone.

This is unreal especially after last year.


The problem is, they use the injuries as an excuse.. for this perpetual continuation of garbage...
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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1022 on: September 18, 2017, 07:13:04 pm »
My experience is lot's of players get hurt when getting rolled by a superior team. 

So it is a chicken or the egg thing.

I don't think they were very good nor did they have a god game plan which is why they got behind then they press which is when players tend to get injured and make mistakes.  It snowballs out of control.

They might come back next week and give the Steelers a run for their money or they could get blown out.  Who knows except it is very unlikely they pull out a win any time soon.

Tough to win in the NFL when most of your starters on the OL are injured, your QB sucks and your WR's suck also.  The D is ok but not great.  They are exposed when they lose TOP. 

I don't have an answer.  Firing Fox right now fixes nothing. 

I guess we let the season play out and likely have to start all over again.


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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1023 on: September 18, 2017, 07:33:52 pm »
I think it took Pace a couple years to change what he is trying to do.

While Cutler was around, the bears were trying to win with a very flawed team because they had a high dollar QB.  Things have shifted the other way this year. Its going to take time to fix this dumpster fire. Best way to do it, is end up with the #1 overall pick with a STRONG QB class coming out, when you already have your QB1. Let Glennon take the beating while it occurs. Let Turbinsky have a redshirt year.

Trade that #1 overall for a LOT of offensive lineman. There is no OL spot on this team that cannot use serious competition. none. Draft OL 1st, 2nd, your traded for 2nd from trading #1, then take a WR or TE and more of the same. work on defense the year after.

My one complaint is they did not draft OL after turbisky last year... stop with the small school high ceiling players, you can get them after the 4th round.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1024 on: September 19, 2017, 01:07:37 am »

What beating?

Glennon if I'm not mistaken was sacked one time.  He attempted to throw the ball 46 times. 

O-line is pretty good pass blocking group assuming we get back Sitton...and Long.  Problem is Sunday they couldn't block the Bucs running the ball early.  Bears normally don't give up running but the turnovers forced them into pass mode.  46 pass/16 run is not the this Bears team ratio for success.

Not all Glennon's fault.  He is what he is.   A decent backup QB.  See Hoyer. 

Glennon is at his best when he has to make short throws in the middle of the field where the receiver has at least a step and he has no pressure. 

Did you see Matt Ryan against the Pack?  Not the most mobile QB but he extends the play with his feet.  Of course having Julio Jones and Sanu help.

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Grizzlybear34

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1025 on: September 19, 2017, 04:37:03 am »
The big issue with Glennon, is he invites the defense to stack the box.  They have no fear of him threatening them deep.  This is impacting the run game.  I am also hoping to write this game off to it being our floor.  If Atlanta game was our ceiling and the Bucs game was our floor, is something in the middle enough to wind 5 games this season?

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1026 on: September 19, 2017, 09:10:49 am »
When you stack the box its to stop the run and force a QB to pass. That's understandable and how you defense a team without WRs.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1027 on: September 19, 2017, 09:40:51 am »

Bellamy has speed - so does Thompson.  You got to go deep at least a couple times a game.  I think in the last 2 games we've gone deep maybe once?

The Trib had an article about Glennon/Loggains dinking and dunking down the field.  Bears did that with Hoyer last year - it requires almost perfection and no penalties to produce points. 

Not all Glennon's fault, some of it goes to our receivers and some to our offensive coordinator.   In the Atlanta game the Bears scored 17 points.  One of the 2 TD drives didn't require a single pass.  Got to score to win.

The question is can Trubisky make our mediocre WRs better than they are now?  That is, can he throw them open?

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1028 on: September 19, 2017, 11:07:47 am »
I think Trubisky scrambling around in the pocket and sometimes running the ball will get WR's open.  Now cant he receivers catch the ball when it is delivered is the question.

The Bears aren't likely to win the next two anyway.  I would continue to play Glennon maybe give Trubisky a series each game to ease him in.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1029 on: September 19, 2017, 12:03:34 pm »
Or put him in at some stage of the game against Pittsburgh if it is a lost cause.  If he doesn't play against Pittsburgh, I think you sit him against Green Bay also.

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1030 on: September 19, 2017, 01:15:11 pm »
Coach Tomlin just said the Glennon is statuesque, in a good way.  He apparently led the Bucs over the Steelers a few years back and impressed Tomlin with his vision and anticipation.  Why do I get the feeling that opposing teams don't want to hurt him, keep him in games?  Lol

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1031 on: September 19, 2017, 03:11:28 pm »

Yeah, but what do you think his players are saying?  Pass rushers are looking forward to going after a QB that is anchored to a spot, rarely even moves around the pocket let alone takes off and doesn't throw down the field.

Personally, I think Fox is trying to maintain Glennon's confidence level by continually playing him in blowout games and declaring  him the starter a week before the game starts. 

With our defense, if Glennon can limit the turnovers (like ZERO) we can keep it close in the 4th quarter and hope to get a lucky break or 5. 

McPhee should be ready to take more snaps - maybe Amukamora comes back too.  (Any word on the O-line...Sitton? Long?)

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1032 on: September 19, 2017, 04:16:58 pm »
Haven't heard anything yet on the guards.  I was thinking, we have already had 4 guards injured, Kush, Long, Compton, and Sitton.  I wouldn't be surprised to see us activate Jordan Morgan

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1033 on: September 19, 2017, 05:45:09 pm »
We lost Joseph off the practice squad...and it sounds like they are going to cut Gentry again...

Jackiejokeman

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Re: 2017 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1034 on: September 19, 2017, 06:35:35 pm »



 If we are hurting at guard all the more reason to start Glennon.


 Trubisky is too high of a draft pick and a possible franchiser to throw to the wolves.