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boogie

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #225 on: May 03, 2020, 01:16:13 pm »
And the fact that Nagy took away for most of the year the thing he did so well, moving and running, and was forcing him to stay in the pocket (which was a suicide mission with our OL), I dont blame Mitch for all of his problems.  Missing wide open WRs with no pressure, well that one is on him. 
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dallasbear2

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« Reply #226 on: May 03, 2020, 10:11:47 pm »

Wasn't Nagy coach of the year his first year and now he's a crappy head coach.  Trubisky and Leno were pro bowlers now they are toilet bowlers.

Everything looks setup for a rebound in 2020.  QB competition, a couple new speedy WRs, a bunch of new DBs, two starting TEs, top flight FA pass rusher...everything in place except the Bears most likely will be starting 4 of the same 5 guys on the offensive line.

Will Ifedi be enough to make them people movers in the run game?  Better focus, better line coaching, and better technique may clean up the pass blocking to be respectable but can they push defenders off the LOS?

chifaninva

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« Reply #227 on: May 04, 2020, 05:25:50 am »
Nagy's "coach of the year" benefited from Fangio's defense.. No Fangio= 8and8
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« Reply #228 on: May 04, 2020, 06:23:32 am »
IMHO the sum of the parts Fangio/Nagy was better than the sum of the parts with Pagano/Nagy.

I think the team talent-wise was equivalent.

Not sure WTF happened to Hiestand though......

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« Reply #229 on: May 04, 2020, 07:24:30 am »
Didn’t they switch to a zone scheme last year? Maybe these guys are better drive blockers?

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« Reply #230 on: May 04, 2020, 10:20:33 am »
Didn’t they switch to a zone scheme last year? Maybe these guys are better drive blockers?

Yup, ding ding ding. exactamente.. Thats why Hiestand had to go. Problema numero uno.

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« Reply #231 on: May 04, 2020, 10:28:44 am »
Which is why when they switched to the power I formation in that one drive it worked. I’m sure the reasoning is zone blocking in the run scheme looks a lot like pass blocking which makes the offense look less predictable but if your guys can’t do it then it doesn’t work.

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« Reply #232 on: May 04, 2020, 10:30:30 am »
And this popped up on my radar screen. We got this new SS Gipson. Yeah he has experience per Draft wire, agreed. But this scares me.

While Gipson has played most of his career as a free safety, the Bears appear to have confidence that Gipson will thrive in the role as strong safety alongside Jackson, who will return to free safety this season, where he’s been at his best.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/05/03/five-things-to-know-chicago-bears-safety-tashaun-gipson/

This sent up the warning flags.

chifaninva

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« Reply #233 on: May 04, 2020, 11:10:44 am »
Last season our run game ranked 27th. Yards on the ground were down by 25%. Personnel, play calling.. both.. Look at the Titans with Henry. Their QB is less than stellar..

If Mack doesn't have a better season this year, the trade will go down as Wannstedt like.. And/or Pagano should never be allowed to coach again..

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #234 on: May 04, 2020, 12:48:48 pm »
IMHO the sum of the parts Fangio/Nagy was better than the sum of the parts with Pagano/Nagy.

I think the team talent-wise was equivalent.

Not sure WTF happened to Hiestand though......

I think defense's decline last year was due to Fangio, Akiem Hick's injury, Amukamora losing a step and the offense.

Poor offense puts more burden on defense.  Worse field position.  If behind in the score the defense has to play more honest.  Also TOP means defense is running out of gas in 4th quarter.

It's all connected.  Just as lack of turnovers on defense results in offense being less productive.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #235 on: May 04, 2020, 01:51:20 pm »
Hicks' injury was everything to the defense. The difference was night and day.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #236 on: May 04, 2020, 02:09:37 pm »
I agree because the offense could concentrate on Mack. No factor on the other side (Floyd) horrible and Hicks out with injury

chifaninva

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #237 on: May 04, 2020, 02:59:01 pm »
We can hope that our D gets back to form. Foles plays well and maybe a season off will do Trubisky some good (if he somehow stays with the bears).. If the Bears falter, at the least I would expect Pace to be unemployed..

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« Reply #238 on: May 04, 2020, 05:06:02 pm »
I agree because the offense could concentrate on Mack. No factor on the other side (Floyd) horrible and Hicks out with injury

Yes and no.  I think many of us are under the belief that Mack is double/triple teamed every play and that's not the case.  Sure he gets doubled or the half back/TE may try to slow him down before going out on a pattern.  But for the overwhelming majority of the time Mack is not double teamed.

If you watch line play.  You'll see that when the Bears rush 4 (no blitzes) and the offense block with 5 that the center and guard more frequently block one of the interior rushers.  Mack had somewhat of an off year (if you measure success by sacks) because Hicks wasn't around to disrupt the middle force the QB to scramble.  And with Floyd not providing consistent pressure from his side it all meant less sack opportunities for Mack.

If we can keep Hicks, Quinn, Robertson-Harrison, Goldman and Nichols healthy most of the year - Mack will have a huge year.   It also would help for the Bears offense to show up and give these guys a break.