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WshflThinking

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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #256 on: May 06, 2020, 12:44:10 pm »
I was worried about this before and this kind of amplifies it. Maybe it isnt going to be a problem, but Gipson isnt the strong safety type and admits it.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/5/5/21248565/bears-free-agent-tashaun-gipson-eddie-jackson-safety-texan-buster-skrine-opportunity-couldnt-pass-by

I'll admit there is a difference between SS and FS, but its not like in the old days.  How many times do you see the Bears bring the SS into the box - not very many.

Most of the time both safeties are playing center field.  Gipson has the size and has played SS a couple years in his career. 
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WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #257 on: May 06, 2020, 04:13:14 pm »
Interesting:

Because football is the only major sport that hasn’t been interrupted by the coronavirus pandemic and the NFL has plowed through its offseason as usual, there seems to be an assumption that it’ll continue to do so.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/5/6/21247177/chicago-bears-2020-schedule-comes-out-thursday-here-is-what-the-nfl-should-do-coronavirus

chifaninva

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #258 on: May 06, 2020, 07:15:22 pm »
Interesting:

Because football is the only major sport that hasn’t been interrupted by the coronavirus pandemic and the NFL has plowed through its offseason as usual, there seems to be an assumption that it’ll continue to do so.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/5/6/21247177/chicago-bears-2020-schedule-comes-out-thursday-here-is-what-the-nfl-should-do-coronavirus

Hope so.. I wish baseball would get going...

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #260 on: May 07, 2020, 11:07:02 am »
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« Reply #251 on: Today at 03:51:18 pm »
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I think y'all are blind. He looks like a guy that doesn't have enough game reps... Shocker. That's what he is.

I am not saying that Trubisky deserves no blame.  I was responding to Chifan, basically in agreement.  Nagy was bullheaded and went away from what works too often, offensive line was awful, and the only reliable weapon that the Bears had on offense was Robinson.  Trubisky looked worse than the prior year.  Was he the sole offender to our offense?  No.  Is it being painted that way more so in the media?  Absolutely.  All 4 components caused our offensive ineptitude.

Does that fix it for you?

Now we are going to have some tight ends, but generally, not much was done.  Will changing coaches, an offseason of Nagy self reflection (plug in either Green Bay game and the Dallas game), a journeyman QB, fix everything? 

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #261 on: May 07, 2020, 12:37:06 pm »
I am not saying that Trubisky deserves no blame.  I was responding to Chifan, basically in agreement.  Nagy was bullheaded and went away from what works too often, offensive line was awful, and the only reliable weapon that the Bears had on offense was Robinson.  Trubisky looked worse than the prior year.  Was he the sole offender to our offense?  No.  Is it being painted that way more so in the media?  Absolutely.  All 4 components caused our offensive ineptitude.

Does that fix it for you?

Now we are going to have some tight ends, but generally, not much was done.  Will changing coaches, an offseason of Nagy self reflection (plug in either Green Bay game and the Dallas game), a journeyman QB, fix everything? 

I agree with ya Griz.. Sh!t show last season and most want to blame Trubisky..

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #262 on: May 07, 2020, 12:47:53 pm »
Trubisky was a mess after he injured his left shoulder. He was never accurate after he returned. It had to affect his throwing. Is he to blame? I think the blame should be on him this year if he begins

the season throwing the same way. With me its a wait and see situation.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #263 on: May 07, 2020, 01:54:51 pm »
I believe with Trubisky his accuracy is very suspect. Even with time he has trouble hitting open recievers. Last season was hard to gauge entirely due to the offensive line playing very offensively. He's a true enigma though. He'll hit a guy for a huge gain with a accurate throw but then miss open guys or be WAY off on a throw. I do think it's time to move on from him, personally, but just knowing the crazy history of this team, he'll go somewhere else and blossom.....watch....

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #264 on: May 07, 2020, 05:10:03 pm »
1st 4 games Lions, Giants, Falcons, Colts.... all very winnable.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #265 on: May 07, 2020, 07:16:03 pm »
Trubisky has success when the game is on the line in the last minute. I think some of his problem (besides the obvious), he thinks too much and can't through his reads. He's not going to carry a team. Most QB's don't, only a few. He's athletic and has the arm. But I would agree, if he can't show something this upcoming season then it's time for a change..

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #266 on: May 07, 2020, 10:11:48 pm »
Yesterday I watched some of the condensed games from last year.

Trubisky could hit pin point pass after pin point pass then under throw the receiver in the end zone for an int.

Maybe he needs a coach who doesn't hug it out with him.

Parcells, Walsh, Holmgren, Sean Payton to name a few didn't baby talk their QB's after big mistakes and they ended up with some great ones.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #267 on: May 07, 2020, 10:57:59 pm »
I can defend Trubisky and I can just as easily blame him.

For example, DeShaun Watson has been sacked over 100 times the last 2 seasons.  But his average QB rating is 100 over those same 2 seasons.

On the other hand, Watson had 3 pretty good receives in Hopkins, Fuller and Stills.  And he had a running game.  A 1000 yard rusher and the 9th best running attack averaging 4.6 yards per carry.

Trubisky has to be given a fair chance to beat out Foles, if he can do that and win the starting job then he just has to win games.   No more excuses.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #268 on: May 07, 2020, 11:08:49 pm »
Yesterday I watched some of the condensed games from last year.

Trubisky could hit pin point pass after pin point pass then under throw the receiver in the end zone for an int.

Maybe he needs a coach who doesn't hug it out with him.

Parcells, Walsh, Holmgren, Sean Payton to name a few didn't baby talk their QB's after big mistakes and they ended up with some great ones.


Yeah, maybe Nagy is too close to Trubisky.  Sometimes I think Trubisky is so fearful of making a mistake and disappointing Nagy that it slows down his decision making.

 

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #269 on: May 08, 2020, 08:30:34 am »
There is some validity to that. I think the thing thats been ignored is the affect that left shoulder played on Trubisky's accuracy after he came back. I thought I heard he had to wear some harness

under his jersey. If so that had to affect his throwing.