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stelz

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #840 on: November 01, 2020, 02:51:43 pm »
Pace isn’t the only one to blame for the poor personnel on offense.  Nagy and he are “such good partners” or whatever.  They are Nagy’s guys too...presumably he’s on board with spending way more than half on defense

Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #841 on: November 02, 2020, 06:56:32 am »
Wierd signings like Ginn Jr are a signature hallmark of the Pace era. I'm more firmly convinced than ever that Pace was only a gopher in the Saints organization. I guess if skill and knowledge came from close contact osmosis he would be fine but that ain't how skill and knowledge work.....

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #842 on: November 02, 2020, 09:44:45 am »

Ginn was signed to upgrade speed at WR.  He has not been a full time punt returner...and it showed.  The emergence of Mooney has decreased the need of Ginn on the roster.  Ginn is just an insurance policy for Mooney. 

He had a crucial catch against the Falcons earlier this year and he burned us last year with the Saints. 

If you noticed the Bears rarely incorporate all 3 WRs into a game plan, though they did Sunday.  Not many catches for Wims, Ginn and Patterson..and of course Ridley.  Miller was a no-show in numerous games.

Same is true at TE where Graham gets the majority of targets.  Did you hear Aikman slam Graham for his lackadaisical routes?   That was evident on Trubisky's interception at Atlanta too.   Graham had 7 targets - 2 receptions.  Where's Kmet?

WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #843 on: November 02, 2020, 10:39:47 am »
Refs bailed out Kmet yesterday when he fumbled. Clear fumble too.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #844 on: November 02, 2020, 10:56:23 am »
Nice that we got to see a highlight of Spriggs standing in place while a DE ran around him.

Last week we got to see the same highlight with Maddie.

Aikman said Montgomery leads the league in broken tackles.


I hope Whithair can come back and play left guard and leave Mustipher at center.  White hair can still make OL calls from the guard position.

Bars must be really bad in practice not to see the field.

I think he could play RT,  at least he can move his feet

wmljohn

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #845 on: November 02, 2020, 10:57:37 am »
In the officials defense, and you can see it on replay, the ref did throw the black bean bag to mark forward progress way before he fumbled.  I think the rule is once forward progress is determined the runner is technically down at that point.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #846 on: November 02, 2020, 11:00:38 am »
RULE 7 Ball in Play, Dead Ball, Scrimmage

Section 1 Ball in Play

Article 1: Live Ball. After the ball has been declared ready for play, it becomes a live ball when it is legally
snapped or legally kicked (a free kick or fair catch kick). The ball remains dead if it is snapped or kicked
before it is made ready for play.

Section 2 Dead Ball

Article 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

     (a) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body
     other than his hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner
     touching the ground with his hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to
     advance; or

     (b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends; or

     (c) when a quarterback immediately drops to his knee (or simulates dropping to his knee) behind the line
     of scrimmage; or

     (d) when a runner declares himself down by sliding feet first on the ground. The ball is dead the instant
     the runner touches the ground with anything other than his hands or his feet; or

WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #847 on: November 02, 2020, 11:25:48 am »
So it was called a dead ball. Again that definitely benefited the Bears.


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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #849 on: November 02, 2020, 12:06:00 pm »
So it was called a dead ball. Again that definitely benefited the Bears.

Your point was it was a clear fumble that the Refs changed their minds on and reversed the call to give Kmet a break.

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Refs bailed out Kmet yesterday when he fumbled. Clear fumble too.

In fact it was the correct call from the beginning.  It was never ruled a fumble.  It was never reviewed.  It was a correct call made during the play.  Their was no bail out nor was there a fumble.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #850 on: November 02, 2020, 12:10:32 pm »
The dead ball call was the right cal and it did benefit the Bears.  But it was the right call.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #851 on: November 02, 2020, 01:24:51 pm »
next up the Titans, very no nonsense team with an absolute monster running back. Lost to Cincy, I  hope the Bears change SOMETHING to make it better.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #852 on: November 02, 2020, 01:26:05 pm »
The Bears defense will be shredded by the Titans run game. Mark this one up as a loss.

It will probably be as ugly a loss as the Rams game.  Maybe worse.

davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #853 on: November 02, 2020, 03:04:52 pm »
Your point was it was a clear fumble that the Refs changed their minds on and reversed the call to give Kmet a break.

In fact it was the correct call from the beginning.  It was never ruled a fumble.  It was never reviewed.  It was a correct call made during the play.  Their was no bail out nor was there a fumble.

They didn't blow the whistle, which means they considered it a fumble until they decided it was progress stopped.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #854 on: November 02, 2020, 03:08:43 pm »
It's disturbing how opponents are running right at our RDE play after play with huge success.

Robertson Harris is getting blown off the ball and Urban is only a little better.