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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1005 on: December 06, 2020, 11:17:31 pm »

Yeah.

You see opposing teams defensive lines overload a side and create pressure.  Or send 6 with 5 blockers.  Bears did occasionally blitz Skrine and Smith but overall Pagano is so vanilla.

Why is Trevathan out there on 3rd and long? 

Why do our DBs consistently play zone?  Are they so bad that they can't play man once in a while?   Maybe we overestimate them and their early success was due to the pass rush which has disappeared the last 6 games or so.

Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1006 on: December 07, 2020, 07:11:18 am »
Teddy "Used Car Salesman" Phillips, George "Mediocre" McCaskey, Ryan "Stop Hitting Yourself" Pace, Matt "Offensive Genius" Nawji and Chuck "Strong" Pagano have to each take a bite of this **** sandwich just like every fan that had the "honor" of watching the game. You just KNEW they were not going to win, even when up by 10 points TWICE.......

On Pace,  I get the drafting of Trubisky, as if you feel he's your guy you get him. Trading up was the killer and at the time I thought this move will either make or break this regime. Well, I underestimated (and may still be) the amount of suffering it would take to clean house.

I really wonder if George McMediocre will make any moves this offseason though. They've got excuses- China virus, injuries, bad luck. To quote from Platoon (or Star Wars if that's more your style) "I got a baaaad feeling about this"........

Still, as long as McMediocre and "Sweaty" Teddy are still calling the shots, it probably will be same ole, same ole.....

Go Bears ! (And take this coaching staph) with you.....
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VJ

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1007 on: December 07, 2020, 10:34:51 am »
If Teddy retires (per rumors of course) then having a "football guy" run the show and hire his new HC/GM would perk my interest a bit...

Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1008 on: December 07, 2020, 12:01:12 pm »
There is no confidence McMediocre will get the best candidate available. He would probably go with another "consultant", btw proving his lack of football acumen, and we'll get another Ryan Pace. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

For the love of GOD I hope they prove me wrong.....

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1009 on: December 07, 2020, 01:02:42 pm »
The Score was discussing does Virginia pull George out and replace him as well? He absolutely should be on the chopping block with everyone below him. Clean it all...

davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1010 on: December 07, 2020, 01:57:06 pm »
They need to hire a legit president of football operations to hire his own GM.

With a few better players on offense and a real coach they’ll be fine.

Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1011 on: December 07, 2020, 02:08:03 pm »
It would take the pressure off Mediocre George and put it on the new guy in charge instead. But there is just no faith that he wouldn't flub that hire as well. Hell, I wouldn't trust him to pour **** out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel  :D

This coaching "staph" does less with more talent than most staffs. Not that they have a cornucopia of talent to work with, but just look at what the 49ers (and it pains me to say that considering what they did to Sayers back in the day and to the 80s Bears) have done with the injuries they've sustained. That's coaching. Not the feel good, "Be You", do what you want to lassez fair Nawji & company.....

It took the LoLions to clean house to just show how the Bears are actually the LoLions..... Then again that may be too harsh. At least the Bears can count their playoff appearances in the last 2 decades on one hand with a little help  unlike the LoLions.....

Like most. sick to death with the utter dreck this team is at the moment. Crappy year just got crappier indeed. Crappy New Year ! :D




davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1012 on: December 07, 2020, 03:04:28 pm »
No NFL owner is a “football guy”

Obviously they’re rich guys who made money on real estate tech or something.

They call other team presidents around the league and get recommendations.

There’s no reason George can’t do the same. 

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1013 on: December 07, 2020, 04:41:12 pm »
No NFL owner is a “football guy”

Obviously they’re rich guys who made money on real estate tech or something.

They call other team presidents around the league and get recommendations.

There’s no reason George can’t do the same. 

"Other team presidents" are your competitors and have incentive to provide a mix of competent and incompetent personnel in their recommendations.

You have to be smart and savvy enough to make the right choice.  Is there any reason to believe that NumbNuts can manage that?
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Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1014 on: December 07, 2020, 04:42:39 pm »
Some are more involved than others (not always a good thing- see Dallas).....

I'm concerned curious George will ask for recommendations and the other billionaire on the line will sell him a bill of goods (e.g. That O'Brien guy who was with the Texans ? I hear he's available) or try to pawn off some person in his organization he wants to "promote out the door". And George will say Okee dokee.....

davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1015 on: December 07, 2020, 06:25:54 pm »
"Other team presidents" are your competitors and have incentive to provide a mix of competent and incompetent personnel in their recommendations.

You have to be smart and savvy enough to make the right choice.  Is there any reason to believe that NumbNuts can manage that?

Obviously you’re not going to call the packers and Vikings for recommendation.

The are 16 AFC teams to call.  That’s how other owners do it.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1016 on: December 08, 2020, 04:36:53 am »
Obviously you’re not going to call the packers and Vikings for recommendation.

The are 16 AFC teams to call.  That’s how other owners do it.

I must be missing something. Are you saying owners of teams are calling other owners for advice on how to run their operation?

davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1017 on: December 08, 2020, 10:40:44 am »
No they consult with the team presidents who run football operations.


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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1018 on: December 08, 2020, 10:45:46 am »
I think they consult execs at other teams to get their input. For instance the Bears might consult KC about things because they are successful and have a Nagy connection. Pace likely still talks to folks at NO even though they play each other. The McKaskeys like have connections all over the league to get feedback and ideas for candidates. It should be pretty obvious to look for coaches from other successful programs and top scouts who have consistently selected top guys out of the college ranks.  My first interview question to a potential GM would be “what are the key elements to building a great team” If building the trenches isn’t one of the top answers, then move on.

davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1019 on: December 08, 2020, 03:24:38 pm »
Today at 4pm CT the SCORE is going to interview Hub Arkush and it sounds like they're going to talk about who does what in the Bears power structure.