Author Topic: 2020 Chicago Bears  (Read 24071 times)

Bears4Ever

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1451
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1170 on: January 18, 2021, 06:35:25 am »
Josh Allen does this look off well (as does Mahomes). Its what a good coached, skilled QB can (and should do). Not that the Bears will ever see that from these coaches and QBs.....

Sportster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8351
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1171 on: January 18, 2021, 09:07:39 am »
Keep hearing Deshaun Watsons name brought up as trade bait. I'm not sure he'd be the guy who could get the Bears to the championship. Heck, I'm not sure who's out there that could do that. We could win some games with him but the teams that keep getting there consistently are the ones with HOF type QB's onboard. Very hard to find....

And noticed that Clevelands second and third string LTs are better than our starting LT.....just shows how inept this team is at finding and utilizing talent....
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 09:09:32 am by Sportster »

Grizzlybear34

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2868
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1172 on: January 18, 2021, 10:19:15 am »
The thing about finding the franchise QB which gets overlooked, is it allows you to look at all other positions in the draft and FA.  Once you have your guy, you can fill out the rest of your lineup.

dallasbear2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 846
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1173 on: January 18, 2021, 11:39:28 am »

The deal about a franchise QB is he makes the players around him look better.  Even the defense.

So a team is not constantly over spending and over drafting to find players to help their QB.  How many high draft choices or expensive FAs on the Packers offense?

Sportster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8351
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1174 on: January 18, 2021, 12:01:18 pm »
So then the question would be, is it worth giving up a bunch of picks to get 'the guy'? To try to figure this out, lets look at the last fifteen years of Super Bowl winning QBs:
(current or future HOFers in bold...)

2019  KC with Mahomes
2019  NEP with Brady
2018  PE with Foles
2017  NEP with Brady
2016  DB with Manning
2015  NEP with Brady
2014  SS with Wilson (HOF or close?)
2013  BR with Flacco
2012  NYG with Manning (HOF or??)
2011  GBP with Rodgers
2010  NOS with Brees
2009  PS with Roethlisberger
2008  NYG with Manning
2007  IC with Manning
2006  PS with Roethlisberger
2005  NEP with Brady
2004  Brady again

This is pretty telling.....QB is the most important factor in getting a team to the Championship. It's not impossible, but it's not real common otherwise....
Agree Agree x 1 View List

wmljohn

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4377
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1175 on: January 18, 2021, 01:02:38 pm »
Any news or rumor on the DC hire?

boogie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5724
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1176 on: January 18, 2021, 01:55:40 pm »
LAKE FOREST, Ill., — The Chicago Bears appear to have begun the process of finding their next defensive coordinator with interviews this week. According to a report from Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic, the Bears have reached out to the Indianapolis Colts to request an interview with defensive backs coach Jonathan Gannon.

The request comes just a week after Chuck Pagano announced he was retiring from the NFL after spending the past two seasons as defensive coordinator for the Bears.

Gannon has 14 years of coaching experience, with 10 of those in the NFL. He got his start in 2007 with the Atlanta Falcons as a defensive assistant coach and quality control coach before moving on as a scout with the St. Louis Rams from 2009-11. In 2012 he joined the Tennessee Titans as a defensive assistant and then spent four seasons as assistant defensive backs coach for the Minnesota Vikings from 2014-17.

MORE >>>>> EARLY CANDIDATES FOR BEARS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR JOB

Most recently, Gannon has been the defensive backs coach for the Indianapolis Colts, joining the franchise in 2018 under Frank Reich's staff. After finishing dead last in a lot of defensive categories in 2017, Gannon was a part of the staff that helped turn things around in 2018, becoming a Top 10 defense. With the help of Gannon, the Colts were sixth-best in terms of passing yards allowed this season, doing it with a young secondary and a veteran in Xavier Rhodes.

The Bears are also considering a few in-house candidates including Jay Rodgers and Sean Desai but with Brandon Staley reportedly interested in bringing Rodgers to Los Angeles as his defensive coordinator, it should urge Chicago to move fast in this process.

WshflThinking

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15231
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1177 on: January 18, 2021, 03:58:10 pm »
Well here is some more fuel for Sportster's firestorm:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/odds-bears-trading-deshaun-watson-191104632.html

It seems the fire is real for the Texans as well as Watson. The problem I have with any of this talk is the pricetag after we got him. His cap numbers make a deal very prohibitive. On the other side it didnt make Foles

untradeable. I sure doubt I would do a trade if it were me.

BillSharp

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4179
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1178 on: January 18, 2021, 04:46:52 pm »
Foles was untradeable ... except to the laughingstock GM of the Bears.
Agree Agree x 1 View List

dallasbear2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 846
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1179 on: January 18, 2021, 05:09:08 pm »

How does trading Watson to Chicago get the Texans a starting QB next year?

octagon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Location: South Burbs
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1180 on: January 18, 2021, 05:23:53 pm »
Deshaun Watson has already proven in his four years that he has HOF level talent.  The Texans are going to get a huge return if they choose to trade him.  The bears have very little to offer.  I think Pace is going to be looking at Fitzpatrick and Winston level players.

davebear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5555
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1181 on: January 18, 2021, 05:36:45 pm »
Trading with the Jets or Jags would get them Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

BillSharp

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4179
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1182 on: January 18, 2021, 05:59:07 pm »
LOL!!!!

davebear

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5555
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1183 on: January 18, 2021, 06:08:07 pm »

hibernationsuxs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1345
Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1184 on: January 18, 2021, 08:40:50 pm »
Went back to look at boards with all this Watson trade talk. 

hibernationsuxs
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1196
View Profile  Email  Personal Message (Online)

Re: 2017 NFL Draft
« Reply #192 on: January 01, 2017, 06:38:37 pm »
Remove
Deshawn Watson looks like the real deal to me.  He is a winner.  He almost beat Alabama in last years title game.  I believe he might beat them this year.  Nick Saban says he is the most special player since Cam Newton in SEC.  I think he will be 1 or 2 this draft but if somehow he is there at 3 and the Bears pass I think it will haunt us for a decade.