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davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1260 on: February 04, 2021, 11:41:21 am »
Carr had a 101.7 passer rating and was PFF 8th ranked QB FWIW.

He did have a terrible 2019 but played in an offense with a lot of injuries this year.
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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1261 on: February 04, 2021, 01:04:16 pm »

His 2019 was just as good as 2020.  21 TD 8 interceptions  100.8 rating  70% completions

He will be 30...he's not much of a runner  but he's durable missing only 2 games over 7 years
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davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1262 on: February 04, 2021, 01:23:02 pm »
In 2019 the Raiders went to a dink and dunk offense after Gruden lost confidence in Carr’s ability to throw downfield.
2020 they went back to their downfield offense and Carr had better success.

So although the statistics are similar the offense was quite different.
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Bears4Ever

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1263 on: February 05, 2021, 04:15:06 pm »
Some clear indications the Bears are trading for Carson Wentz. Pace may be going to double down on stupid (again) and give up draft picks for a QB. That's what you get in a "lame duck" year when you have to win or you are out. And the Bears hamstrung  for the near future.... Way to go George McMediocre.....

Then again, suppose they get Wentz. He plays so-so but get hurt (and with no significant changes to the Oline is almost a guarantee) . In come Foles to lead them to a SB win..... This is probably what George/Pace/Nagy have going on in their fevered heads...

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davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1264 on: February 05, 2021, 04:19:50 pm »
Bears can’t pay Wentz’s salary unless they gut the rest of the team.
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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1265 on: February 05, 2021, 04:41:50 pm »

Won't that be they case for most of the QBs they could trade for:  Watson, Carr, etc.

Leaves FA types and 3rd tier draftables.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1266 on: February 05, 2021, 04:51:55 pm »
I can see the Bears re-signing Trubisky
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1267 on: February 05, 2021, 05:03:17 pm »
I can see the Bears going 4-12.... then again, it seems for the last decade or so they do seem to do better when no one expects them to be any good. Guess that's why they play the games..... :D
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« Reply #1268 on: February 05, 2021, 05:07:48 pm »
I think Foles goes if Wentz comes, so that would offset the salaries a bit.  So maybe Foles and a 4th?  Anything more and I'd walk away.  Wentz was awful (on a completely destroyed by injuries offense) last year, but very good in 17 and 18, decent last year.  The injuries and last year are concerning.

I'd rather Pace wait the qb market out.  I think a better qb might shake out towards the draft.  A fallback of Fitzpatrick and Foles with a 2nd or 3rd round pick doesn't really look too much worse to me then trading for Wentz.
I'd rather Pace be patient. 
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VJ

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1269 on: February 05, 2021, 08:11:07 pm »
Quote from: octagon on February 05, 2021, 05:07:48 pm
I'd rather Pace wait the qb market out.  I'd rather Pace be patient. 

He won't.  And he never is.  Pacey and Nagy are lame ducks who do not give a flying f*ck about 2022.  Pacey is bidding against himself again for a QB and Roseman and Ballard are laughing their asses off as another 1st round draft pick...or 2 disappear as a result of excellent collaboration.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1270 on: February 05, 2021, 08:49:47 pm »

Yes they are lame ducks trying to save their jobs with a playoff run, but it appears the Colts will also be in the running for Wentz.

As for Foles, it's almost more painful to trade him than keep him.  I have no problems with him being a backup.  But as a starter teams come up with heavy blitz packages that he has shown in the past not able to handle.  Of course a better O-line would make him more effective.
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davebear

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1271 on: February 05, 2021, 09:52:11 pm »
NO if Brees retires, Frisco, Dallas, Washington, Steelers have one more year with Rothlisburger, Denver, maybe Philly. could all be in play for quarterbacks.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1272 on: February 06, 2021, 09:01:55 am »
no one is going to pick up Foles' contract, dream on.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1273 on: February 06, 2021, 09:21:06 am »
Philly would...after they fleece the Bears of multiple 1sts and/or 2nds.

If I were Wentz, I would much prefer Indy.  They have a solid line.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1274 on: February 06, 2021, 10:02:12 am »
I don't think Wentz will be that bad....   but the Bears mortgaging  the future with a lame-duck coaching staff destined to probably be fired at the end of next season is BAD.....
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