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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #360 on: April 24, 2020, 11:25:09 pm »
I was big on Kmet until I saw the highlights of Hopkins.  And a CB who has had surgery 3/4 last years???   In the second round we are picking someone with injury questions????  Pace has to go, sorry.

Brycen Hopkins?  Has he even been drafted yet?   Maybe tomorrow.

Flex tight end with enough route acumen and separation quickness to open throwing windows, but modest ball skills and below-average hands can turn potential completions into drops. Hopkins' issue with catch consistency has been ongoing and is unlikely to change as a pro. While the athletic talent looks good in space, there was a noticeable drop in production and opportunities when matched against man-cover talent. Hopkins could be viewed as a one-dimensional slot tight end with Day 3 draft potential, but his issues as a pass-catcher could limit his long-term prospects.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #361 on: April 24, 2020, 11:52:46 pm »
Draft profile from the athletic, these tend to be rather harsh:

3. JAYLON JOHNSON, Utah (6-0, 193, 4.51, 1-2): Johnson is a third-year junior, two-year starter at LC. “Good man press corner,” said one scout. “Little bit less effective in off. Has size and length. Needs to get a little bit stronger. He’s a little bit lean. He had a shoulder earlier in the year so his tackling was off. I think he’s faster than he ran. I could see him at the end of the first.” Johnson underwent surgery in March for a torn labrum after being injured in September. It was his third shoulder operation. “Other than the shoulder, he’s clean,” a second scout said. “His game’s not strength. It’s his coverage. I think the dude can really cover. He doesn’t show lack of willingness or any inconsistency as a tackler.” He finished with 102 tackles, seven picks and 28 passes defensed. “He’s a stiff player that tends to play high,” a third scout said. “He’s out of balance at the top of routes. When he’s playing off he has dirty eyes. Average to below tackler. He does not hunt the ball. He lacks change of direction when playing off. Good ball production. Does a nice job when matched up with large receivers. He’ll go in the first or second. Would I take him there? No.” Johnson posted a Wonderlic of 21 and is from Fresno, Calif.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #362 on: April 24, 2020, 11:54:00 pm »
1. COLE KMET, Notre Dame (6-5 ½, 262, 4.68, 1-2): Kmet reminded one scout of ex-Cowboy Jason Witten (6-5 ½, 260, 4.67). “If you want an all-around guy, kind of a Kyle Rudolph-type guy, he’s it,” said another scout. “He’s faster than Kyle, but he doesn’t have the ball skills. He’s had some durability issues. He’s got great intangibles. He can run. He can catch. He doesn’t have an elite trait but you really love the body type and everything about him.” Third-year junior with 60 catches (43 in 2019) for 691 (11.5) and six TDs. “He’s not a talent like Vernon Davis or Evan Engram,” a third scout said. “He’s more of a throwback, classic Y tight end. He’s solid. He won’t fail.” From Lake Barrington, Ill. “I don’t see a great blocker and I don’t see a great receiver,” said a fourth scout. “I see a guy that’s more of a U. I don’t see a great Y. He reminds me a lot of the (Drew) Sample guy that came out last year out of Washington and plays with the Bengals. Some of the workout (numbers) were better than the player he is. I don’t see first round. I think he’s always going to be a solid No. 2 (tight end), maybe a good No. 3.” Wonderlic of 28.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #363 on: April 25, 2020, 01:00:29 am »

A good #3?  Shoot, we already have half a dozen of them already.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #364 on: April 25, 2020, 06:24:11 am »
This is the Bears who have been cursed at TE since Ditka and cursed at QB since the modern era began......

How an organization can be so bad at evaluating these two positions for so long is mind boggling. Its either extreme bad luck or intentional stupidity :D
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #365 on: April 25, 2020, 09:38:45 am »
I watched the highlight reel on Kmet and liked what I saw.  Then I watched the highlight reel on Hopkins, and it was stunning catch and running.  I guess you can believe what someone wrote up or you can go with what you see with your eyes.  That is why I like the Tape Never Lies.  I look forward to hear their breakdown on Kmet. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #366 on: April 25, 2020, 10:06:43 am »

The Bears badly needed a cornerback that has the capability of starting right away and Jaylon Johnson has a chance to do exactly that. The Utah cornerback got on the field early as a freshman and became a two-year starter before skipping his team’s bowl game this past season and declaring for the draft. At 5-11, 193 pounds with a 74 3/8 wingspan, Johnson has ideal NFL size and could have been a first round pick if not for lingering shoulder issues.

Strengths: Johnson has outstanding ball skills and great feet to move smoothly in tight coverage. His long arms pop on the tape, especially in man-to-man coverage. He tracks the ball in flight and delivered seven interceptions in his college career, returning two for touchdowns. Johnson has the speed to close and recover. He’s a very competitive player and not afraid to come up in run support. Against USC in 2019, Michael Pittman essentially avoided Johnson's side and did his damage against other defenders. Though Johnson  played on the left side of Utah's defense the majority of the time, he started to shadow opposing No. 1 wideouts mid-way through the 2019 season and showed he could play both sides in the Pac 12 title game. As a bonus, he’s young, having just turned 21 earlier this week.

Weaknesses: Johnson takes chances and sometimes he gets burned as a result. Penalties have been an issue. Three shoulder surgeries, including one after the Combine are a concern, but also contributed to him being available to the Bears at No. 50.

Ryan Pace's take: “Jaylon has a really good combination of size, athleticism and awareness. He’s that physical, press corner that uses his size really well. He uses his strength to his advantage, to re-route receivers. Jaylon is a really intelligent player, plays the game with excellent instincts and awareness, and you can see it in the way he plays. And Jaylon’s another guy with outstanding football makeup, really high football character. This is a guy who is driven and passionate. (There are) a lot of stories about his work ethic and just his professional approach to the game. So we feel real strong about the physical talent but also the makeup."

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #367 on: April 25, 2020, 10:09:31 am »
The Bears filled their tight end need with a hometown prospect that was once a possibility to be drafted by the White Sox. The Lake Barrington native was a star football and baseball player at St. Viator and he went on to play both sports at Notre Dame. In 2019, Kmet decided to focus solely on football and had a big junior season, catching 43 passes for 515 yards and six touchdowns before turning pro.

Strengths: Kmet is a well-rounded tight end with the upside to get stronger and better now that he is focusing solely on football. He tested well at the Combine and looks smooth in his routes as a natural pass-catcher. He’s got great size and a catch radius the Bears need at the position. The intangibles are off the charts. Ryan Pace will almost certainly declare that Kmet fits his “Bears box,” checking every box on-and-off the field.

Weaknesses: Kmet’s blocking needs improvement. He won’t be the fastest or most sudden tight end in the NFL. At the Combine, he drifted away from the football in the gauntlet drill, suggesting he can do a better job of attacking the ball in the air. Not that it’s a bad thing, but Kmet is more Kyle Rudolph than he is George Kittle.

Ryan Pace's take: "This is really your classic ‘Y’ tight end, with the prototypical size and athleticism we look for in the position. He’s a big target, natural hands. He’s really tough after the catch and he has the strength and temperament we want in the run game. And we feel his blocking is still improving, so there’s a lot of upside in that area. With Cole splitting time between baseball and football early in his college career, he’s still a young player with a lot of upside. And then you go beyond the physical traits, just the outstanding makeup and the character."

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #368 on: April 25, 2020, 01:33:38 pm »
Bears trade up to 155...

Trevis Gipson - DE - Tulsa

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #369 on: April 25, 2020, 01:34:11 pm »
Bears trade up and take trevis gipson.  Athletic but raw DE.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #370 on: April 25, 2020, 01:55:53 pm »
163 - Kindle Vildor - CB - Georgia Southern

Bears gave a 2021 4th rounder to get the Gipson draft spot.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #371 on: April 25, 2020, 01:57:03 pm »
I would have taken Prince Tega or Netani Mute...but who needs OLmen anyway?

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #372 on: April 25, 2020, 02:19:48 pm »

Developmental.  Quick.  5th ranked DE but I think he projects to OLB to backup Quinn and Mack

Overview
He's quite raw and in the dead center of his developmental phase, but it's hard not to get excited by the traits and flashes. Gipson was a late bloomer so he is still a little behind in his fundamentals and technique. He doesn't have go-to moves and counters, but the rush is real with a long, explosive first step and the athleticism and length to win the edge and harass the pocket. He needs better hand usage and lower body strength to handle himself at the point of attack, but he is a rangy tackler. Gipson isn't NFL-ready yet, but he's a potential diamond in the rough as a long-limbed defensive end in odd or even fronts.


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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #373 on: April 25, 2020, 02:31:30 pm »
Traded up again for 4.38 WR from Tulane small guy

Rated 140th player on Jaermiahs board
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #374 on: April 25, 2020, 02:41:40 pm »
They should have been trading down to acquire picks but that's the Bears for ya.....