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WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #210 on: April 13, 2020, 10:57:26 am »

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #211 on: April 13, 2020, 02:38:40 pm »
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/11/chicago-bears-met-with-mississippi-state-cornerback-cameron-dantzler/

With the draft approaching you never know. This kid doesnt impress me much. Why was he some top rated CB?

Review is good on the kid:

Overview
Very long, stringy cornerback with surprising strength and a competitive mindset that had quarterbacks looking for easier battles elsewhere. He looks to suffocate and contest the route from start to finish and does an excellent job of maintaining phase in the vertical plane. His cover style will draw attention from NFL game officials early on, but the athleticism and length should allow him to trust his technique. He won't give up many explosive plays through the air, but is a high-risk tackler in run support and needs to do a better job of wrapping and finishing. Dantzler can play in a variety of coverages but is a future starter as a confident press-man corner with early starting potential.


But here is the issue.  He ran a 4.64 40 at the combine which says 6th or 7th round.  Then on his pro day he ran a 4.38 hand timed 40.  If he's anywhere near that 4.38 speed then he'll get drafted several rounds earlier.  Never seen such a discrepancy in 40 times.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2020, 02:55:22 pm »

Bears don't typically spend  earlier than 4th or 5th rounders at safety.

Last second rounder I remember was some short kid out of Nebraska.  Didn't like the pick at the time.

Mike Brown.


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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #213 on: April 14, 2020, 12:39:58 am »
Tua. has had 2 ankle surgeries, finger surgery, a knee problem and the hip.

If you’re a GM do you really want to spend a top 10 pick?


Grizzlybear34

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #214 on: April 14, 2020, 05:00:04 am »
Review is good on the kid:

Overview
Very long, stringy cornerback with surprising strength and a competitive mindset that had quarterbacks looking for easier battles elsewhere. He looks to suffocate and contest the route from start to finish and does an excellent job of maintaining phase in the vertical plane. His cover style will draw attention from NFL game officials early on, but the athleticism and length should allow him to trust his technique. He won't give up many explosive plays through the air, but is a high-risk tackler in run support and needs to do a better job of wrapping and finishing. Dantzler can play in a variety of coverages but is a future starter as a confident press-man corner with early starting potential.


But here is the issue.  He ran a 4.64 40 at the combine which says 6th or 7th round.  Then on his pro day he ran a 4.38 hand timed 40.  If he's anywhere near that 4.38 speed then he'll get drafted several rounds earlier.  Never seen such a discrepancy in 40 times.

Sounds like Peanut...

WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #215 on: April 14, 2020, 09:19:21 am »
This mock has the Bears drafting with both 2nd rounders and no Olinemen either. Kmet is a TE though

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #216 on: April 14, 2020, 09:40:54 am »
2 ol in the 2nd. please.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #217 on: April 14, 2020, 09:56:49 am »

Given our lack of draft choices early, other needs, Pace's job security and cap situation with Leno and Massie I just don't think that's going to happen.



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WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #218 on: April 14, 2020, 10:40:00 am »
Me either. I think Ifedi takes Long's job and they draft an OT in round 2. I think they have more holes than they have picks.

I'd still like to trade down from 50 and pick up more picks (equals more holes fixed).

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #219 on: April 14, 2020, 10:47:17 am »

Bears still could  draft another development/injured offensive lineman in round 6 or 7.

I like the trade down scenario - in fact I like it so much I've been thinking about trading BOTH 2nds down.  Still want to stay in round 2 with both trade downs if possible. 

But predicting what Pace will do will be damn near impossible.  He's probably going to trade up both for the WR Lamb or something like that.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #220 on: April 14, 2020, 10:58:40 am »
Still want to stay in round 2 with both trade downs if possible.

Well if you were going to do that, then trade down from 43 and keep 50.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #221 on: April 14, 2020, 11:49:36 am »

Possible.  But 50 could still get you a late 2nd rounder and a late 3rd rounder.

Many of us, including myself think of draft picks by their round number. 

I bet GMs think of picks by their numerical draft order.

#50 could get you #60 and #100 for example. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #222 on: April 14, 2020, 11:56:06 am »
Would 43 get you a 2nd 3rd and 4th?

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #223 on: April 14, 2020, 11:58:16 am »
This mock has the Bears drafting with both 2nd rounders and no Olinemen either. Kmet is a TE though

What mock?

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #224 on: April 14, 2020, 11:58:29 am »
Would 43 get you a 2nd 3rd and 4th?


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