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otto105

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #315 on: April 24, 2020, 11:30:19 am »
A 13-3 Record isn't winning now?
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dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #316 on: April 24, 2020, 11:50:18 am »

I can agree with you and I can disagree.

I'll disagree as its more fun.

Bears gave up 10 and 21 points in the two games against the Pack.  If Tolliver/Burns is equal to Amukamora and Quinn should be better than Floyd, I can live giving up an average of 15 points a game against the Pack.

We needed a better offense to beat the Pack.    Can that be done by an improved Trubisky or move to Foles at QB?  And/or do we need a better O-line?  And/Or more firepower at WR and TE? 

A case could be made for getting a fast WR, an offensive lineman and a corner in the top 100 - but we have to trade down.  I think the talent at TE beyond the ND kid doesn't warrant a top 100 pick.

WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #317 on: April 24, 2020, 12:05:17 pm »
4th or 5th would be TE time not top 100. But WR in a rich WR class will sure help us. Yeah I can see a trade down. I hate to bring up that trade where we gave up that 4th. Did we get value for that,sure. Did we need that? Yeah, no question. IMHO what we need now is picks in a quality draft and we dont have them. Time to drink your coffee and wake up.

davebear

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #318 on: April 24, 2020, 12:11:53 pm »
A 13-3 Record isn't winning now?

If you’re happy losing in the playoffs, fine.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #319 on: April 24, 2020, 12:41:04 pm »
4th or 5th would be TE time not top 100. But WR in a rich WR class will sure help us. Yeah I can see a trade down. I hate to bring up that trade where we gave up that 4th. Did we get value for that,sure. Did we need that? Yeah, no question. IMHO what we need now is picks in a quality draft and we dont have them. Time to drink your coffee and wake up.

On the subject of trading for veteran players with draft picks.  The Raiders had our first round pick - #19 and picked Damon Arnette.  He was ranked the 13th best CB.  He's a solid zone corner but probably could have been taken well into round 2. 

I have a buddy that's a Raider fan - I'll be following tihs guy's career.

WshflThinking

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #320 on: April 24, 2020, 12:55:10 pm »
I just think that if you are going to put Farty Arty or some UDFA out there to stop Adams or someone other cheese head you are asking for trouble, a lot of trouble....like 3 or 4 TDs

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #321 on: April 24, 2020, 01:47:41 pm »

I've been on the CB bandwagon for some time.  And next to edge pass rusher its the most important position on defense.

You can help out a weak corner but generally they're on an island.

I don't know what the Bears think of Tolliver, Fartie Artie and the Canadien immigrant.  We'll find out in a few hours.

Right now I"m leaning toward corner and tackle in round 2 - anything extra WR possibly safety.

Of course Pace will probably announce an edge rusher at #43.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #322 on: April 24, 2020, 04:29:23 pm »

Lance Zierlen who does most of scouting reports for the top nfl.com rookies has the Bears taking:

#43 Antoine Winfield  S
#50  Denzel Mims       WR

These are two fine players that most fans would be good with but there's still a lot of talent in round 3 and into 4.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #323 on: April 24, 2020, 04:36:08 pm »
  Dave23 I like your scenario of Diggs(CB) at 43 and Hunt(OT) at 50. Probably the most plausible filling important needs.I will say I really like the stats and tape of Jeremy Chinn(S).I'm not excited about Fulton(CB). He's got some decent tape,but,he only had 2 int in his career. I would expect better than that.
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BillSharp

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #324 on: April 24, 2020, 04:36:58 pm »
I'd be very happy with a S & WR. I'd expect both to start.

From what I've seen I like Tolliver as a starter more than Bush, but the coaches will know better than I.

I do know that after these 2 picks we have little hope for an impact NFL quality guy in 5 thru 7 rounds.

davebear

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #325 on: April 24, 2020, 04:39:40 pm »
NE has the 7, 17, 33 picks in round 3 and has been a trading partner with Pace in the past

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #326 on: April 24, 2020, 05:28:52 pm »

davebear

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #327 on: April 24, 2020, 06:22:03 pm »
Awwww I was kind of hoping Michael Pittman would be an option for us.

dallasbear2

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #328 on: April 24, 2020, 06:33:44 pm »

No way.  Pittman was first round talent and Higgins is early 2nd round.

There's more than 32 first rounders - 2nd round is loaded.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft
« Reply #329 on: April 24, 2020, 06:47:53 pm »
Miami takes Hunt at 39.

Damn.