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Pekin

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #990 on: August 30, 2018, 02:57:27 am »
The market decides.  The market decides what the players make and the market decides what the owners make.  If the prices go to high no one will go and the players and owners make no money.  Obviously that is an extreme that will not happen unless the owners are really stupid.  The players are also involved as well but ultimately the owners make the decisions.  The owners and players have to walk a fine line to get the most for both while each getting as much as they can for themselves.  Players kneeling during the anthem helps neither.

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #991 on: August 30, 2018, 05:31:19 am »
What percent does the average owner make on stadium/gameday revenue?  They equally split the television pie, so that stadium and swag revenue is the difference.  I know Jerry Jones is the outlier....

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #992 on: August 30, 2018, 07:26:40 am »
I think the thing a lot of folks don't understand about NFL owners i(and super rich folks in general) is that their value is not how much money they have in the bank at the moment but in the amount of future earnings potential they have. Right now an NFL franchise is still a golden goose- its like printing money. And the hoary old adage "it takes money to make money" still applies....

I would guarantee Jerry Jones does not have as much "cash on hand" as you'd think for a multi-billionaire (still tons for common folks such as you and I but bankers and high investors look at things differently than us peons). A ton of it is invested with a return of some sort expected- he doesn't sleep on piles of $100 bills.

A billionaire needs to be as cash poor as he can be able in order to avoid taxes as much as possible. And the interest and investment income needs to be re-plowed into investments that grow more than the taxes payed on it. Its a different world from the average person (although some  of the same principles apply that sadly, too many folks ignore).

Aaron Rodgers getting paid is a good thing- maybe his arrogance (he and some other starters are not traveling in the final PS game to be with his team) bodes well for our week 1 game. Here's hoping the Bears can start the Packers out at 0-1 in their "Centennial" season :D
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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #993 on: August 30, 2018, 09:01:38 am »
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wners could choose to FREEZE revenues on ticket sales, lowering the pie available to players... instead they choose to bilk every dime out of you... and you blame players

Actually they can reduce prices and make even more of a killing.  Atlanta found this out when they reduced all concessions.  They made more money with lower prices and increased game day sales.  I heard an interview with a marketing director for the Deadskins and he mentioned that they are reviewing their concession prices based on the results Atlanta got.  He said it most likely will become a trend in the industry.

Imagine that.  I might buy 6 $2.00 beers but only one $6.00 beer at a game.  I might be more inclined to buy the whole family $2.00 hot dogs during a game instead of eating before the game and not spending $6.00 on a hot dog.  I am glad at least one owner figured this out.
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davebear

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #994 on: August 30, 2018, 09:41:17 am »
$9 for a friggen Bud light last game I went to so I passed.

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #995 on: August 30, 2018, 11:27:37 am »
I was gonna say, $6 is a bargain for a beer these days.  $9 or 10

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #996 on: August 30, 2018, 11:37:08 am »
$9 Budweiser is a bargain at a Live Nation concert...

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #997 on: August 30, 2018, 11:47:15 am »
Actually they can reduce prices and make even more of a killing.  Atlanta found this out when they reduced all concessions.  They made more money with lower prices and increased game day sales.  I heard an interview with a marketing director for the Deadskins and he mentioned that they are reviewing their concession prices based on the results Atlanta got.  He said it most likely will become a trend in the industry.

Imagine that.  I might buy 6 $2.00 beers but only one $6.00 beer at a game.  I might be more inclined to buy the whole family $2.00 hot dogs during a game instead of eating before the game and not spending $6.00 on a hot dog.  I am glad at least one owner figured this out.

This works on concessions as they are not limited, they will always have more beer and dogs to sell. there are only so many seats available though.

Also, Concessions are not part of Defined revenue, the players dont get a piece of that pie.

NFL generated 14 Billion in revenue last year. total players salaries was 3.56 billion, those terrible greedy players... the nerve!

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #998 on: August 30, 2018, 01:32:08 pm »

Not blaming the players - can't blame them for trying to get as much as they can.  But your remark about them risking their careers is somewhat true, but what about policeman and fireman?

It's really the whole entertainment business - who pays the singers at concerts, actors in movies, players at games....we do.  It's just really escalated over the years. 

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #999 on: September 06, 2018, 12:25:54 am »
Imagine having Mack and Donald lining up on the same team.

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #1000 on: September 06, 2018, 09:52:05 am »

Rams run a 3-4 with Suh and Donald on the line, but they really don't have any good edge guys (they lost Quinn to the Dolphins).  So I see why they were interested.

They'd definitely would have had some cap challenges with Suh and Gurley contracts, and Goff will want to get paid in a year or two.  But this team is already a Super Bowl contender - Mack would have solidified it.

Sorry Rams - he's a Bear!

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #1001 on: September 06, 2018, 01:49:59 pm »
Raiders made the trade with the Bears because they expect the Bears to have a worse record than the other contenders meaning the picks would be higher.

Also on the score this week the calculated the trade using the Jimmy Johnson point system and concluded the Bears traded the equivalent of the fourth pick in the draft for Mack.

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #1002 on: September 08, 2018, 07:24:47 pm »
Lovie's Illini looking like hot garbage against what should be an inferior opponent. 

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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #1003 on: September 17, 2018, 10:50:47 am »
Mahomes is a STUD!!!!  I hope we dont look back in 5 or 10 years and say I wish we had taken him over Trubisky.....just saying.
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Re: Around the NFL
« Reply #1004 on: September 17, 2018, 12:48:40 pm »
ND looks like garbage too. They beat Ball You barely then lowley Indiana U tromps Ball You. They dont have their usual high quality OLne. Wonder what happened to their OLine coach?