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Jes Beard

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« Reply #12840 on: December 04, 2017, 08:01:35 pm »
Nothing to see here move along...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-agent-dismissed-from-mueller-probe-changed-comey-description-of-clinton/ar-BBGeobm?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp


I'm confused here.  You have been telling us for months now that the ENTIRE Mueller team, and before that Comey and all of those working for him on the collusion or Hillary email investigations were entirely in the tank for Hillary and Obama and were virulently anti-Trump.... but now Mueller has booted this investigator for private comments which indicated the possibility of a pro-Hillary disposition, even though no one would ever have heard about if Mueller had not fired the guy.

Now I am not disagreeing with Mueller's decision to remove the guy, but what confuses me is why, assuming your claim is true that Mueller is virulently anti-Trump and pro-Hillary and Obama, AND that he stacked his entire team with others strongly leaning that way, why Mueller would remove this guy over purely private comments which would never have come to light absent Mueller canning him.

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« Reply #12841 on: December 04, 2017, 08:08:51 pm »
Another one bites the dust:

http://trumptrainnews.com/articles/breaking-corrupt-dem-congresswoman-gets-locked-up

If you had used a source a bit more credible than trumptrainnews, you might have read in the coverage of the sentencing that the case began under Obama.

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« Reply #12842 on: December 04, 2017, 10:11:57 pm »

I'm confused here.  You have been telling us for months now that the ENTIRE Mueller team, and before that Comey and all of those working for him on the collusion or Hillary email investigations were entirely in the tank for Hillary and Obama and were virulently anti-Trump.... but now Mueller has booted this investigator for private comments which indicated the possibility of a pro-Hillary disposition, even though no one would ever have heard about if Mueller had not fired the guy.

Now I am not disagreeing with Mueller's decision to remove the guy, but what confuses me is why, assuming your claim is true that Mueller is virulently anti-Trump and pro-Hillary and Obama, AND that he stacked his entire team with others strongly leaning that way, why Mueller would remove this guy over purely private comments which would never have come to light absent Mueller canning him.

First of all the guy was not just let go for anti-Trump tweets. He did much worse then that.  He was involved in the Hillary interview and interviewed Flynn.  He also changed the lines in Comey's speech from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless".  Which as a lawyer you know is a big deal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-agent-dismissed-from-mueller-probe-changed-comey-description-of-clinton/ar-BBGeobm?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Both Mueller and Comey were involved in the uranium one deal.  Perhaps Mueller made a deal. 

Maybe Mueller and Comey didn't want to be dirty but had no choice and now they do.  Or maybe they really are trying to take Trump down and are failing miserably.

Time will tell. 
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Jes Beard

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« Reply #12843 on: December 04, 2017, 11:25:22 pm »
Or maybe your conspiracy world theories are nonsense.

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« Reply #12844 on: December 05, 2017, 06:58:36 am »
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“I heard it every year: Why doesn’t my child have a textbook?”

Ummm...  Maybe because they are outdated and the internet has taken the place of paper text books?  I am sure they are not teaching subjects without reference materials.  The text book has been replaced by the internet at a cheaper cost.

Which brings you to this comparison to a decade ago...

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Funding for school supplies has dropped 20 percent, he said. His schools get 33 percent less money for textbooks now than a decade ago

HELLO...  When you don't need to purchase text books you get less money to do it with.  Technology changes things.  Now I am not an educator and don't claim to know about the education industry but this just seems to be common sense.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #12845 on: December 05, 2017, 08:26:26 am »
Ummm...  Maybe because they are outdated and the internet has taken the place of paper text books?  I am sure they are not teaching subjects without reference materials.  The text book has been replaced by the internet at a cheaper cost.

Which brings you to this comparison to a decade ago...

HELLO...  When you don't need to purchase text books you get less money to do it with.  Technology changes things.  Now I am not an educator and don't claim to know about the education industry but this just seems to be common sense.

Sorry, but the internet simply does NOT replace textbooks.  Schools trying to do so are focusing entirely on spending without concern for result.

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« Reply #12846 on: December 05, 2017, 02:19:09 pm »
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Sorry, but the internet simply does NOT replace textbooks.  Schools trying to do so are focusing entirely on spending without concern for result.

Why not?  It would be much cheaper to have a license to teaching materials online then to buy and replace text books all the time?  I am not saying that the teacher should just use any internet page or wikipedia to teach from.  Accredited digital text books have to be cheaper and much easier to keep updated versions of.

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« Reply #12847 on: December 05, 2017, 02:25:02 pm »
you have to provide really expensive devices to each student... devices that break often.
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« Reply #12848 on: December 05, 2017, 02:27:21 pm »
The cost of school books is ridiculous.  You could buy computers for nearly the same price.



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« Reply #12849 on: December 05, 2017, 02:33:06 pm »
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you have to provide really expensive devices to each student... devices that break often.

Have you compared the cost of cheap tablets compared to the cost of text books?  As well as one tablet to replace multiple text books.

E-textbooks on tablets cost on average 50-60% less than print textbooks. According to a 2012 report from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), K-12 school districts spend more than $8 billion per year on textbooks. [6] E-textbooks can save schools between $250-$1,000 per student per year. [9] Tablet prices also continue to drop, making them increasingly affordable. Tablets cost on average $489 in 2011, $386 in 2012, and are projected to cost $263 in 2015. [10][11]

On a tablet, e-textbooks can be updated instantly to get new editions or information. Schools will not have to constantly purchase new hardware, software, or new physical copies of textbooks. FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said that "too many students are using books that are 7-10 years old with outdated material." Tablets are especially beneficial for subjects that constantly change, such as biology or computer science. [6]

Tablets lower the amount of paper teachers have to print for handouts and assignments, helping to save the environment and money. A school with 100 teachers uses on average 250,000 pieces of paper annually. [14] A school of 1,000 students on average spends between $3,000-4,000 a month on paper, ink, and toner, not counting printer wear and tear or technical support costs. [15]

https://tablets-textbooks.procon.org/  From February 2017 article.


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« Reply #12850 on: December 05, 2017, 02:35:13 pm »
They could buy a tablet or kindle for the same price as the text books.  Although they would still need to purchase the downloads of the text books.

Almost every job requires computer skills so they might as well learn to use them in school.

Although my kids always had computers in their classrooms starting in kindergarten.  When I was a kid you had to go to the computer lab to use one.

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« Reply #12851 on: December 05, 2017, 02:37:16 pm »
My brother-in-law is a big IT guy for a local school district here in Virginia.  I should ask his take on it sometime.  I think I know what his answer would be though.

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« Reply #12852 on: December 05, 2017, 02:47:05 pm »
Had out a bunch of tablets to 3rd graders, see how many are working in 2 months. they are way to rough with them for this to make sense. It might work for HS, but in lower grades it just doesnt make as much sense.
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« Reply #12853 on: December 05, 2017, 02:58:31 pm »
Another one likely to be let go.  From reports it sounds like there will be several more.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/05/mueller-deputy-praised-doj-official-after-defied-trump-travel-ban-order-am-so-proud.html

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« Reply #12854 on: December 05, 2017, 03:15:30 pm »
Had out a bunch of tablets to 3rd graders, see how many are working in 2 months. they are way to rough with them for this to make sense. It might work for HS, but in lower grades it just doesnt make as much sense.

My kids have used iPads in school since 1st grade. For the lower level kids (1-3) they put a case on it which is like 3 inches of rubber on all sides.  As far as I know, they've never had a problem with the tablet breaking. My son is older and the case is less rugged so maybe he'll break it at some point but, so far it's been fine.
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