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Jes Beard

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« Reply #11010 on: July 26, 2017, 05:18:02 pm »

Interesting.. somewhere 12-13 minutes Cuomo (he denies it) says if it were the Ukrainian government, it wold be OK, but not OK with Russian. Another words, Hillary gets a pass... same old sh!t..

So which is it?  Perhaps you and Pekin and other Trump apologist can huddle and figure it out --

Was there nothing at all wrong with what Trump's people did because there is nothing wrong with talking with, or even working together with, a foreign country like Russia during a political campaign, so all of the investigations should end?

Or is it that you just want the Hillary camp also investigated for their misconduct in talking with and possibly working together with a foreign country like the Ukraine during a political campaign and all you want is equal treatment?

Trump apologists are genuinely funny, though quite unintentionally so.

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« Reply #11011 on: July 26, 2017, 06:52:43 pm »
Jes,  You keep missing the point on purpose I suppose.

If it is illegal why is Hillary and her campaign not being investigated for it and charged since we have actual real proof.  Or it is not illegal in which case they need to stop the investigation of Trump.

Only a person who is extremely biased thinks Hillary (and Obama) should get a free pass but we have to investigate every member of the Trump team for every single interaction no matter how small with any person of Russian descent.

 
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davep

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« Reply #11013 on: July 26, 2017, 06:53:18 pm »
You will have to explain the connection between Mandatory minimums in sentencing laws and Government procurement laws.  I don't see any correlation between them.


Jes Beard

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« Reply #11015 on: July 26, 2017, 08:56:50 pm »
You will have to explain the connection between Mandatory minimums in sentencing laws and Government procurement laws.  I don't see any correlation between them.

I highlighted it, increased the font size, and put it in red to help you see the connection.

Of course the connection was not between mandatory minimums in sentencing laws and Government procurement laws,

The connection between the two is that both involve the elimination of discretion, the elimination of -- in your words -- the ability of the people to make decisions, to the point of making decisions illegal.  As a result of this you often end up with bad decisions.  Just like the government procurement laws you addressed, mandatory minimums in sentencing laws are "written to prevent people from making mistakes, and thus eliminate the ability of the people to make decisions, to the point of making decisions illegal."

Did you really not see the connection?

Jes Beard

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« Reply #11016 on: July 26, 2017, 09:09:50 pm »
Jes,  You keep missing the point on purpose I suppose.
If it is illegal why is Hillary and her campaign not being investigated for it and charged since we have actual real proof.  Or it is not illegal in which case they need to stop the investigation of Trump.
Only a person who is extremely biased thinks Hillary (and Obama) should get a free pass but we have to investigate every member of the Trump team for every single interaction no matter how small with any person of Russian descent.

Well, let's agree that ONE of us is missing the point.... and doing so intentionally.

At no time have I ever even suggested that either Hillary or Obama should "get a free pass."  I have said I would be perfectly happy to have both of them also investigated.

You complain about Hillary not being charged while Trump is being investigated, and ignore what I have now repeatedly pointed out to you -- that as President, Trump is able to direct that she be prosecuted, and HE has decided not to do so.  You also ignore the point I have repeatedly made that it does not really matter whether Trump or any of his team violated any criminal law, or whether it might be possible at this point to determine conclusively that none of them did -- the investigation needs to continue in order to determine exactly what Russia did, and what it tried to do, to allow Congress to determine what legislation is needed for future elections.

It is really hard to understand how you could not grasp this position or how you would continue to post as if you don't.... unless it is a feigned failure because you feel that makes it easier to function as a Trump apologist.

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« Reply #11017 on: July 26, 2017, 09:28:49 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/26/russia-probe-democrats-block-key-witness-against-shadowy-firm-fusion-gps.html

This fox story appears MUCH more significant, is factual, and from my cursory google search it appears it has not been mentioned at all in any of the major newspapers or on other broadcast news outlets.

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« Reply #11018 on: July 26, 2017, 11:45:13 pm »
Jes, Do you fail to grasp that Trumps recent twitter rants about Sessions may very well be because Sessions is refusing to look into the Hillary and Obama crimes?

Surprisingly after that Sessions has announced he is now looking into the illegal leaks.

Sessions is an old school politician that believes all Senators are in a fraternity.  It is a long held belief that the winners do not look into crimes of the losers in Washington.  However if they actually committed crimes and are now committing more crimes to bury the current administration that should be set aside.  Trump realizes this and Sessions does not.

This country is in a cold civil war with the Democrats and their deep state allies trying to commit a coupe.

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« Reply #11019 on: July 26, 2017, 11:55:56 pm »
Jes I have brought up Fusion GPS numerous times and their Democrat affiliations, each time you have dismissed or ignored it.  Glad to see you are finally catching on to the significance of that story.

The next big one is the IT guy of the Democrats whose family was put on Democrat payrolls and made over 4 million dollars.  His entire family has fled the country with all of the cash but he was caught at the airport before he could get away.  My guess is he will commit "suicide" or simply disappear.

Wasserman-Shultz actually threatened the capitol police over them taking a lap top to save this guy months ago.  I suspect this story is going to be huge on FOX and conservative sites but the MSM will barely cover it.     

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« Reply #11020 on: July 26, 2017, 11:58:53 pm »
Fox showed film of her meetig and threats to the police.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #11021 on: July 27, 2017, 06:25:02 am »
Jes I have brought up Fusion GPS numerous times and their Democrat affiliations, each time you have dismissed or ignored it.  Glad to see you are finally catching on to the significance of that story.

If I am actually catching on to the significance of the story, then the story is little more than an effort by apologists such as you to point your finger and sputter, "But they did it, too!"

Dip into your bag of conspiracy theory craziness and set out your most egregious reasonable scenario for the  "significance" of Fusion GPS.
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« Reply #11022 on: July 27, 2017, 06:33:29 am »
This country is in a cold civil war with the Democrats and their deep state allies trying to commit a coupe.


Perhaps a coup.... but not at all likely a coupe.

Jes, Do you fail to grasp that Trumps recent twitter rants about Sessions may very well be because Sessions is refusing to look into the Hillary and Obama crimes?

Surprisingly after that Sessions has announced he is now looking into the illegal leaks.

So are you suggesting now that instead of carrying on direct and private communication with Sessions, Trump is giving him direction via public tweets no more clear than a Delphic oracle?

If the failure to pursue Hillary as something which upset Trump, why did Trump back in January say HE did not want Hillary prosecuted?  Why did not Trump's tweets address that failure?  Why did not Trump can Sessions for the refusal months ago?

Is the problem that Trump himself is part of this deep state conspiracy determined to bring him down?

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« Reply #11023 on: July 27, 2017, 01:22:13 pm »
Do you think perhaps Trump decided they needed to be gone after again once they went after him?  Especially since they actually did what they are accusing him, his family and campaign of doing?

The Democrats have pushed this to far and are going to end up shining the light on their own bad behavior.  It is beginning.

If this Pakistani IT guy starts talking a whole lot of Democrats are going down.  He worked for the DNC and dozens of Democrat politicians.  Seems only Wasserman-Shultz was stupid enough to keep employing him though.  The rest fired him months ago.



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« Reply #11024 on: July 27, 2017, 01:38:13 pm »
Name change announcement.


From here on the happy warehouse rube will be a happy nothingburger.



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