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Jes Beard

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« Reply #15195 on: August 10, 2018, 08:04:22 pm »
Quote from: davep on August 05, 2018, 09:56:13 am
The growth in net worth of those in congress stems from book royalties, gifts and donations, lecture fees and consultation fees, in my opinion, not in investment income.  There is little a senator or congressman can do to move the stock of a large company, up or down, that will have a profound effect on his net worth.

Amassing a fortune while in office is not always a matter of passing legislation helping or hurting a company.  Sometimes it is a matter of getting insider information by virtue of a position in government.  https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/political-implications-of-collins-indictment/71-581683398

I suspect that Representative Collins and his family were not only trying to avoid losing a boatload of money by using insider information, but they they acquired the stocks in the first place as a result of what amounted to insider information.
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« Reply #15196 on: August 11, 2018, 06:41:41 am »
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« Reply #15197 on: August 11, 2018, 08:37:20 pm »
What noose are posting about old man?


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Jes Beard

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« Reply #15198 on: August 12, 2018, 09:33:45 am »
This might have been a great idea... 45 to 50 years ago.  At this point the percentage of voters who are takers instead of contributors, people who count on the government giving them things taken from other voters instead of counting on the government to protect what they have from people who would willingly engage in criminal conduct to forcibly take it, has dramatically shifted.  Because anything produced by a constitutional convention must then be ratified by the states, we might well end up only making matter worse.  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/11/conservatives-call-for-constitutional-convention-alec
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« Reply #15199 on: August 12, 2018, 10:56:29 am »
Quote from: Jes Beard on August 10, 2018, 08:04:22 pm
Amassing a fortune while in office is not always a matter of passing legislation helping or hurting a company.  Sometimes it is a matter of getting insider information by virtue of a position in government.  https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/political-implications-of-collins-indictment/71-581683398

I suspect that Representative Collins and his family were not only trying to avoid losing a boatload of money by using insider information, but they they acquired the stocks in the first place as a result of what amounted to insider information.

Collins got the inside information, not from being a congressman, but from being on the board of directors of the corporation.  Granted, he was very likely only on the board because of his position as congressman, but as far as I know, very few congressmen are on the boards of directors of corporations.

Of course, what he did was illegal already, and no additional law is required, or would help, in situations like this.  And anyone with world wide connections could easily hide any increase in net wealth after retiring from congress.  Presidents are routinely paid millions of dollars in speaking fees after they retire, for companies and countries who profited by their actions while they were in office.
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« Reply #15200 on: August 12, 2018, 12:42:19 pm »
No, liquidation of all assets before taking office and living on the salary paid while in office, with no legal claim to such assets acquired while in office WOULD do wonders to help in situations like this.  The only reason Clinton got his outrageous post presidency speaking fees was because folks believed they were buying influence over future policy decisions in which a president Hillary could help them.  Nothing comparable has been seen with any other president.
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« Reply #15201 on: August 12, 2018, 02:19:33 pm »
I remember that you were against term limits because Congress had no constitutional authority to pass such a law.  Just out of curiosity, what constitutional power do you feel could be used to pass the law you propose?
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« Reply #15202 on: August 12, 2018, 06:02:17 pm »
This looks like the Feds are going after the Clinton Foundation:

https://www.teaparty.org/doj-sends-boeing-757-little-rock-federal-agents-load-boxes-documents-318616/

Two plane loads? Wow
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« Reply #15203 on: August 13, 2018, 04:18:20 pm »
IsShitholeFullOfIt


Is it dumb or dumber with you?
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« Reply #15204 on: August 13, 2018, 04:38:42 pm »
Speak for yourself. Which are you?
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« Reply #15205 on: August 14, 2018, 12:25:14 pm »
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« Reply #15206 on: August 14, 2018, 12:50:38 pm »
Really, Clinton and operatives forced donny junior to take the meeting so enthusiastically from the Russians and then continued to force the administration to change their lies....er story about the meeting?



Wow, you're more than just a standard idiot.
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« Reply #15207 on: August 14, 2018, 02:56:00 pm »
And you are real dupe. Sara Carter is right on. If it looks like HS and smells like HS it probably is HS. That also explains the Mueller team going after Manifort to make him sing like a canary. I dont think its working either.
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« Reply #15208 on: August 14, 2018, 07:29:38 pm »
Quote from: davep on August 12, 2018, 02:19:33 pm
I remember that you were against term limits because Congress had no constitutional authority to pass such a law.  Just out of curiosity, what constitutional power do you feel could be used to pass the law you propose?

Probably none.
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« Reply #15209 on: August 14, 2018, 08:54:38 pm »
Libertarians, stupid greedy asssholes who source the 1890s America as something which it was not.



Hey teaching assistant hit your head out of yer arse.
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