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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #795 on: October 25, 2020, 09:42:00 pm »
Avoid the Seahawks or Chiefs?


The bears have yet to prove they can beat the Packers in their division.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #796 on: October 25, 2020, 11:39:15 pm »
Neither have the Packers proved they can beat the Bears since they havent played each other this year.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #797 on: October 26, 2020, 12:23:34 pm »
There's a better chance this year for the Bears to beat the Pack, especially if the Bears D keeps getting turnovers, and the kicking situation continues to solidify.  Having a QB that can see the field and recognize changing coverages and efforts to disguise coverages will help, if he is still upright at that point.  I hope Mitch never needs to take another snap for the Bears... but when was the last season the Bears didn't start the backup?

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #798 on: October 26, 2020, 01:04:54 pm »
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Having a QB that can see the field and recognize changing coverages and efforts to disguise coverages will help

Let's not get carried away.  He is a career backup that isn't much better if any than what he replaced.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #799 on: October 26, 2020, 01:18:11 pm »

I am still waiting on Foles to start connecting on some deep balls.  That to me was one of the biggest differences between him and Trubisky.  That, and the pocket presences.  Foles is more aware in the pocket and is less likely to get sacked.

And I respect what A-Rob gives the offense but its time to throw more balls to Mooney.   Let's get Miller back into the offense and keep getting the ball to Montgomery as a receiver.

3M strategy.  And Kmet too.   2 catches is not enough.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #800 on: October 26, 2020, 01:37:08 pm »
Let's not get carried away.  He is a career backup that isn't much better if any than what he replaced.

He's not that great, I just think Mitch is horrible.  Some guys evidently "see" the field and some guys don't.  Foles is certainly capable of WTF Cutleresque interceptions

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #801 on: October 26, 2020, 01:42:42 pm »
I am still waiting on Foles to start connecting on some deep balls.  That to me was one of the biggest differences between him and Trubisky.  That, and the pocket presences.  Foles is more aware in the pocket and is less likely to get sacked.

And I respect what A-Rob gives the offense but its time to throw more balls to Mooney.   Let's get Miller back into the offense and keep getting the ball to Montgomery as a receiver.

3M strategy.  And Kmet too.   2 catches is not enough.

Usually Foles is getting hit as he throws his deep ball, seems like he throws usually a slightly more catchable ball.    Seems like Mooney is getting plenty of balls...I'm worried they are in the process of giving up on Robinson.  Miller in the doghouse for not getting it.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #802 on: October 26, 2020, 04:23:58 pm »

I don't think the Bears go deep enough.  Every week I see highlights of teams throwing bombs.  Bears longest pass play is 37 yards and I think that was the catch and run that Allen Robinson broke off and scored on in Atlanta.  Only one other pass play over 30 yards.  Too much pressure on the offense to complete long drives - need more big pass plays.

Foles protection has generally been decent.  He's played in 4 games and has been sacked 4 times.  That's pretty good considering he has no threat of a run game to slow down the rush.  The O-line can't run block out of a paper bag but they are OK pass blocking - of course we'll know more tonight.

They also need to get the ball more to Mooney.  Teams know on 3rd downs the ball is going to Robinson.  I'm suggesting maybe throw more of those balls to Mooney.  He's averaging 3 catches a game....Robinson almost 7.   

And Bears need to figure out a way to get Anthony Miller re-involved.  He's too much of a talent to let him just be a decoy.  Coach him up.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #803 on: October 26, 2020, 06:26:22 pm »
The Bears haven't gone deep enough since late era Wannie.  They draft offense poorly, never have a quarterback, always trying to play small ball, meanwhile the safeties creep closer and closer to the line of scrimmage.

Foles is standing back there taking hits...he's not skittish.  Not athletic, but is the only Super Bowl MVP in the qb room.

I can't imagine what it is that Pace thought he saw in Mitch, after  one season as a starter in college after not being able to beat out the guy the year before.  We'll HE'LL LEARN ACCURACY.  I think he liked all the yes sir no sir and thought that would equal coachability.  And to TRADE UP for that...

Some GM's would have TRADED DOWN, picked up Mahomes and an additional first rounder, or just have gone with Carr who had started all four years and been a national champion in college.
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #804 on: October 26, 2020, 06:53:25 pm »
The Bears haven't gone deep enough since late era Wannie.  They draft offense poorly, never have a quarterback, always trying to play small ball, meanwhile the safeties creep closer and closer to the line of scrimmage.

Foles is standing back there taking hits...he's not skittish.  Not athletic, but is the only Super Bowl MVP in the qb room.

I can't imagine what it is that Pace thought he saw in Mitch, after  one season as a starter in college after not being able to beat out the guy the year before.  We'll HE'LL LEARN ACCURACY.  I think he liked all the yes sir no sir and thought that would equal coachability.  And to TRADE UP for that...

Some GM's would have TRADED DOWN, picked up Mahomes and an additional first rounder, or just have gone with Carr who had started all four years and been a national champion in college.

Dang! Pace should have known that Mahomes would have been generational when 98% of the GMs would have chosen Trubisky or Watson.  I would give you Carr had we known he was available for a 2. Sure.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #805 on: October 26, 2020, 07:12:36 pm »
Pace has identified two quarterbacks, may their names never be spoken again.  Whatever 98% of the guys would have done...Pace's job is to not be wrong. 


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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #806 on: October 26, 2020, 08:11:28 pm »
The real problem was Watson was consensus #1 QB coming out.  We got cute and went for Mitch.  Watson is a good QB for a decent team.  Of course any QB with our Oline will not prosper.

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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #807 on: October 26, 2020, 08:21:13 pm »
Watson’s floor seemed to be NFL level franchise QB...therefore Bears all time great...
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Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
« Reply #808 on: October 26, 2020, 08:35:58 pm »
Chad Kelly
Josh Rosen

Anybody, please...